Jerry Sandusky has been married to the same woman for most of his adult life. He had sex with CHILDREN which makes him a pedophile NOT a homosexual. I wonder why Commissioner Rothschild wasn't quoted. He believes in the sanctity of marriage so much he's been married three times.

The government only creates government jobs. Your taxes pay for those jobs. Do you really want to pay more in taxes to increase the government bureaucracy? Instead, the government should decrease spending. They could then decrease taxes, leaving people with more money to buy more consumer goods. More demand for consumer goods means more people employed to produce those goods, i.e. real jobs = higher employment.

John - that's not true. Government spending produces more than government bureaucracy. Infrastructure spending goes to local construction companies, private concrete plants, maintenance for vehicles, etc. Education spending goes to teachers, janitors, cafeteria personnel, bus drivers, local tech companies, etc. But economic development in Carroll County should be more than cutting taxes for land owners. Economic development should encompass revitalizing Carrolltowne Mall area, increasing Warfield's Complex's usage, etc.

Instead, this windmill tilting board does nothing.

I agree with you but this board especially Mr. Rothschild and the rest of his subordinates don't care about ALL the people only those that are in 100% agreement with them and abuse their office to
promote their personal views and agendas.

This is not inappropriate. I did not mean to tag this.

Jesse - this law does not change the age of consent in Maryland (at least not that I've heard). Your teenager is going to have to wait until their sixteenth birthday to elope with Mr/Mrs Wrong. If your child turns out to be gay/lesbian, I hope you either support them or disown them so they can move on with their life.

I think it's pretty obvious that the commissioners don't believe that homosexual couples should have a right to raise children. And neither do most "normal" people who understand the strengths and values of morality in a family unit. People who believe otherwise are morally corrupt.

Michael, I am "normal". I understand the stregths and value of having adults who love, care for and nurture a child. It's no one's business what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom.

You seem a bit defensive, John, and I'm happy to say you may have misunderstood the discussions. Let me help to clarify. 1. We do not feel they should keep their opinions to themselves, but we do feel they should state their personal opinions as a person, not an elected government official or on behalf of the citizens without express consent. They were elected to deal with government issues in Carroll County, not personal issues that we did not ask them to pursue. Using their title to support their own personal agenda is blantantly against the Code of Ethics they were sworn to uphold (see link above).

2. No one here is questioning the Governor's decision to promote and sanctify homosexual marriage because - A. he's not promoting it, he's just trying to make it legal (not religious as sanctify implies) so that all adults can equally choose to marry regardless of sex, race, or religion; and B. he is only asking for equality - not dictating that you must marry same sex. Freedom for all is what he's promoting. It does not affect our official, BOC, or any individual if a gay person marries. It does affect them if they are not allowed to marry. Not only does it send a mesage that they are inferior, but it also limits their legal rights. Churches do not have to recognize their union - but government has no reason not to. If the law currently states it must be a man and a woman, it simply is outdated & should be changed for equality, just as they changed the laws of slavery.

This is interesting, I had posted the ethic link again and copied the portion of the code of ethics that they violated with their actions last night which has since been deleted. So, I am reposting and will continue to post (see below post). What they have done is completely unethical, not because of their beliefs but because they did this using their title and position in the government. If I were a licensed counselor, I could not post my comments with my title of LCPC or I would lose my license because as a person I can say and support whatever I want, but as a professional, you cannot us you license or any influence or priveledge that affords you, to further your personal beliefs or agendas. Which it is apparent from Bonnie's post above and the article that Frazier absolutely did. Since all 5 of the commissioners signed this, they too are now liable.

Here is the ethics link, as well as complaint process, and what I feel they violated (especially #1, #3, and G):

Here is the link to the ethics they are sworn to uphold: http://ccgovernment.carr.org/ccg/code/codetext.asp?section=003.001.004

A. The County Commissioners, recognizing that our system of representative government depends in part upon the people maintaining the highest trust in their public officials and employees, find and declare that:

(1) The people have a right to be assured that the impartiality and independent judgment of public officials and employees will be maintained;

(2) The people have a right to be assured that the financial interests of holders of and candidates for public office present no conflict with the public interest; and

(3) This trust is eroded when the conduct of the County's business is subject to improper influence, or even the appearance of improper influence.

AND

" G. Use the prestige of their office for their own benefit or that of another or misuse County property, time, resources, or materials"

The majority of the citizens didn't vote.... only a very small fraction placed them...
Is there a site or blog somewhere that shares supporter's of these shananagan's thoughts and perspectives??

The problem here is perception. You believe people are promoting same-sex marriage. However, that is not the case. What is being promoted & discussed on a state level is equality for all citizens of Maryland. Are you arguing against equality? Legally, we are all entitled to be treated fairly and equally. What a church chooses to recognize is up to them, but legally we are bound to equality. Discrimination is illegal. The penalties for hate crimes reinforces the seriousness of the basic right, no matter their beliefs (so long as those beliefs do not infringe on another's basic right), to be treated equally. As such, two consenting adults should be allowed to be married, regardless of sex. It's that simple. If you have a legal reason why this should not be so, please educate me - I do desperately want to understand. But if it's a religious belief, then it does not belong in government. The law may have been worded as man & woman, but that is discriminatory. Now that that is recognized should be ammended just as we ammended the constitution & laws for equality of blacks and women and abolished slavery. Equality is for everyone, not just those who think like-minded. That is the difference in these "arguments". One is for equality - if you are against this, then what exactly are you for?

Citizen, you are partly right. I agree that they should be covered by insurance as a couple, but to call it marriage is over the top. And your argument against religious beliefs in government is baseless. This government was founded on the basis of religion. The Bible say not to kill, should we ignore that law as well? You can't pick & chose.

Native, no one says that the bible and the law won't overlap at times. The bible does say not to kill, but that does not inherently mean it is why it is a law. It is a law because to kill someone infringes in the most blatant way, LOL, on their right to live - because each person is equal, no one is allowed to kill someone they may deem less valuable, no matter the reason, correct? The rare exception to this is in cases of self-defense. So, yes, our ancestors were of Christian mindset. And with this awareness on what one powerful, restricted line of thinking can cause, they included the separation of church and state so that the people are free to believe and live as they desire - and that right cannot be restricted by government. Yet, churches can believe and live as they want without the encroachment of government - as was just upheld in the Supreme Court where they determined all the equality issues do not have to be upheld in church positions (ie, sex discriminiation, etc)...but in government, discrimination is not allowed. So, yes, there are times that the bible and the laws will be in agreement, but that cannot be construed as the law being based on religion or that religion should now be incorporated into law. If everyone agrees on a religious premise, then the presumption would be that there would not be a need for a law, right? But laws exist so that a larger or more powerful group cannot take away our inalienable human rights, one of which is to be treated equally.

Amen, Native. All the commissioners did was to join into a NATIONAL proclamation promoting marriage. Which still equals 1 man + 1 woman.

Withavengeance, I think you misunderstand the point, though you partially made it for yourself. It was a NATIONAL campaign - which all 5 could surely join with no controversy had they joined it as individuals. What they are not ALLOWED to do, is to do so using their titles and therefor implicating all the county citizens, thereby misusing their position and prestige to misrepresent and bring about undue influence for their own personal cause and agenda. THAT is what is not OK. Anyone is allowed to have their opinion, but elected officials are not allowed to misuse their power that the title affords them. Secondly, why do you need to promote something that already exists? And it's not unanimously one man + one woman, and I can almost guarantee that within the next 5 years, you find there is no more definition of 1 man + 1 woman. The good part is, that no one is forcing YOU to marry same sex, nor will anyone ever infringe on your belief or desire to marry the opposite sex. Equality will prevail, as it always does and always. Of course, I am a woman, so if you don't believe in equality, you may not give any credence to what I say. Or is your prejudice strictly against gays? I mean, if you're not for equality, and allowing someone else to do what they want with their life, what are you for? Can you explain how it matters legally if a man and a man marry or a woman and a woman? How exactly does that affect you personally? Sorry, I just am grasping to understand your position.

Did you respond to provide me with a site that supports these decisions.. or are you still blowin smoke??

ROFL!

*I apologize, I should have stated it was unethical, not illegal, in the statement above.

Last time I checked, this country was founded on God's law.

withavengeance, you might want to brush up on your fact-checking skills then. Or perhaps get a tutor (I could help you out if you want) :) Remember, this discussion isn't about religion - it's all about abuse of power and incorporating religion into law where it's not allowed. Regardless of the founding father's religion, they were broad-minded enough NOT to impose religion, actually, just the opposite - they require freedom of religion and separation of church and state. So if that is where you are getting your inspiration, you will actually find you are on our side afterall!

No problem Fried, I respect your difference of opinion.

Ironic he would reaffirm that he doesn't care about what the minority group think, lol. Just further evidence of the character behind the title. I would, however, like to know how he has determined we are the minority. After all, this law is ready to pass, which it already has in 6 other states and more to come I'm sure, so that in itself seems to suggest we are the majority and we will be heard!

Thanks for sharing that, Bonnie- that's great information :)

Yes..Thanks Bonnie..

I agree shadow. I do believe it's biological in nature. After all, who would CHOOSE to live a life this way and put up with all the negative stuff? That being said, call it anything else BUT a marriage. I don't care what homosexuals do, just don't call it a MARRIAGE.

Just one word change and I'd be okay with this.

The term marriage is a word... a label..not a life style... the impact of some words ??

withavengeance - why should they not be allowed to call it a marriage? A church does not have to recognize it as such, but who are you, or anyone, to tell someone what is or is not a marriage??? Please, i'm begging you, please explain so that we can all understand why this offends you so much? I really do want to understand, it just seems to be beyond my comprehension without some kind of explanation or justification...can you help educate me?

withavengeance: There is no reason to change the word. Heterosexual and homosexual marriage are no different from each other except for the gender being loved. That isn't a good enough reason to change the word, and promotes separate but equal principles.

You are correct, we should hate the sin, not the siner.

native: Except i already proved that homosexuality is not a sin =)

Complete arrogance since the entire county did not vote for any or all of these commissioners.

A majority of who? The citizens? If you took a poll, I would bet that is not factually true. I would even go so far to say that a majority didn't vote at all - BUT, that is their own fault. Or maybe not. Maybe people feel powerless because someone may be voted in on the issues in government and find out that the people they supported used their position and power to run a personal agenda having absolutely nothing to do with their government responsibilities. This was not a county issue. This is not something they have power or control over. This is not what they were voted in for. And yet, look what they chose to do, regardless of what the majority of their citizens feel or believe. Until you can put facts and statistics behind your claims, you should refrain from making your opinion stated as some sort of truth, or you lose all credibility...much as the BOC now have.

Nope.. the minority did, as always , the minority of the population voted, so obviously the small minority put them in office. That's the way it works in an apathetic county.

You can't discount the uneducated or uninformed citizens..

The political arena in Carroll is, and has been an intentional breeding ground of apathy.
People with busy lives trying to make ends meet, don't have the time to invest in keeping up with serious silliness demonstrated by elected official public servants.

Okay, once again, here are the 2010 election stats:

For the record, "the vast majority of Carroll" didn't elect the current bored of commissioners. In the 2010 primary, of the 86,883 registered voters, only 27,252 (31.37%) actually voted.

The current commissioners got a combined total of 8,240 votes, or roughly 9.5% of total registered voters in Carroll County. That, my dear, is not a majority, by any stretch of the imagination!

In the District 1 primary, Robin Frazier got 1,572 votes or 41.5%. That means that 2,216 Republicans voted AGAINST her by voting FOR one of her five opponents, even though she was going for a second term. It appears Carroll County Republicans disliked her so much the first time, they voted for “ABF” (Anyone But Frazier) in the primary. So, essentially, 58.5% did NOT want her in office. Doesn’t look like a majority to me, sweetcakes!

Of those who voted in the primary in District 2, Haven Shoemaker got 1,592 votes (39.04%), a little more than a third of the total votes cast. That means that 2,486 voters from his own party did NOT want him to win. Again, not a majority.

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In District 3, Dave Roush got 1,720 votes (51.37%) with 1,628 votes going FOR his opponents. He did better than three of the other four, but there were still a LOT of people who voted AGAINST him by voting for his opponents. Technically, he can claim a majority, but only by a mere 1.37%...hardly anything to brag about. And certainly not “the vast majority” as all the commissioners like to claim.

In District 4, Richard Rothschild got 1,391 votes (36.51% - the weakest showing of the five), but 2,419 voters did not want to see him get the nomination. Almost twice as many people wanted to see him lose to any one of his four opponents. (Oh, and by the way, there are three times as many Hispanics living in Carroll County compared to the total number of people who voted for Richie in the primary. That number comes from the US Census Bureau.)

In District 5, Doug Howard received 1,965 votes (52.51%) and 1,777 Republicans saying “thanks, but no thanks.” Like Roush, a majority yes, but barely with just 2.51%.

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Part 3 (parts 1 and 2 are below)

So looking at total votes cast in the primary, 2,216 voters didn’t want Frazier; 2,486 didn’t want Shoemaker; 1,628 voted against Roush; 2,419 people said “no” to Rothschild, more than in any other district; and despite his CATS name recognition, 1,777 people said “we’ll pass” to Howard.

In the General Election, it was merely a coronation of whomever's name was followed by an "R" on the ballot. The R voters saw Ehrlich’s name at the top of the ballot and just sleepwalked the rest of the way down the page.

So Pammy Hammy, if those of us who speak out against the commissioners are the minority, as you like to claim, why is it that the BOC had an over 75% failing grade in the recent Times poll about their performance in their first year? Hmmmmmm?

Wow Bonnie, And those facts are only based on registered voters. If you look at the total citizens of Carroll that are of voting age , the vast minority did ALL of the voting.
A sad statement for a Republican based county at best. The hope of improving conditions in Carroll rests with a minority elected BOC, that breaks the law on a regular basis, and doesn't seem to give a hoot about it.
A good thing public apathy works in their favor.... not much to boast about though..

Bonnie, I think I love you, lol

@ County: The fact remains that the voters in Carroll County who voted put them into office. How on earth can you try to refute that??? Last time I checked, Carroll Co. is still a 'red' county, so what did you expect?

County Citizen, You should be a judge.... great summaries...Thanks..

First, thank you, Buck - that totally made my day and made me smile! :)

Secondly, @withavengeance, I do realize that traditionally Carroll County is a red state. I also recognize that there are many citizens, regardless of political affiliation, that agree with either side of this issue. So, from that aspect, no, it doesn't surprise me that all 5 commissioners believe that a marriage should consist of one man and one woman. But, my concern is that they would reach out beyond their BOC duties and breach their own code of ethics, by using their political position to further their belief. Now, obviously I don't agree with their position, but even if I had I would still be outraged that they felt they had the right to do so. How would you feel if they signed a petition in favor of equal marriage laws for all people? Would you feel it would be ok, say if they had a petition showing the majority of their citizens wanted them to? How about if you proved they were in the minority in their opinions and they chose to do so anyway? The point and bottom line is that we are all free to have and support our own beliefs, but not if you are doing so as a representative of a government agency. I won't even address all the misstatements that were made by Frazier (ESP since shadow_man did such a fine job!). But I digress....I hope this helps clarify why so many are upset. We now feel misrepresented and without a voice.

Np :) These anti-gay people rely on lies and distortion because they realize they are on the wrong side of history. It's easy to prove them wrong, even on religious grounds. We are constantly working outside as well with churches and people irl to spread the truths. The funny thing is, none of the younger generation believe the lies the anti-gay people throw out, because the anti-gay arguments are very laughable.

Michael, I will pray for you.

The freaks in nature are politicians and or elected public official servants that use their perceived power to somehow benefit their own personal agenda...this kind of ill behavior can not possibly be natural... instincts are natural... they tend to lead us in the way that our lives play out...
Not seeking common ground could be viewed as moral decay...

Michael, I think you forgot to start that with "in my opinion..."

As sad I find your opinion, I still believe in your right to hold it. And I am sure there will be many now praying for you to have the fortitude, strength, insight, open mind and heart to one day regret the words you have posted here.

One last thought for you, Michael. If nature does "weed out and eliminate those who weaken the species" then based on history, does it not scare you that it may be you who will be eliminated? Hitorically, weakness tends to be associated with those of a closed mind and unwilling to compromise or understand a way different from their own. You sound more like hitler or Osama than a Christian (which I grant you did not claim to be). But in the end, equality has always ultimately won against bigotry. So, if you truly believe what you tout, you may best be served by looking inward, if only to preserve your own destiny. Just saying'...

Lmao, you need to learn how to troll michael. I see you're just as bad at it on the yahoo boards. Way too obvious.

Wow...even I wouldn't go even close to this far.

What a bunch of perfectly natural goofballs.... hard to believe..

LOL

Hey Buck, why don't you make a Public Information Act request about that? All you have to do is send an email to County Attorney Tim Burke and aks him that question. Keep your request simple, though, and specific because they've jacked up the prices to keep "troublemakers" like us from asking for stuff that is legally ours to know.

Thanks for sharing facts Bonnie.... I will be making several PIA requests... we need to continue seeking not only answers, but a new and effective degree of accountability that does not seem to exist. The in your face law breaking has to be stopped.

Mistatement? We think NOT. Moderate R's DID vote. Don't try to bully me Bonnie. I was and am an Election Judge.

WA- so am I --- no one is bullying you at all...just presenting irrefutable numbers...there was a lot of confusion at the polls because of only being able to vote for one commissioner...wonder how that played into things?? The Church of ...whatever...plays too much of a role in CC politics from Larry Haines to RF...lots of money, lots of people...They are the bullying aspect in this case....

A non-issue? You gotta be kidding' me, ole boy! Do we not have people here in CC who are gay? Good grief!

As I stated above, this IS an issue for CC. The good stuff? No more airport expansion, at least for now. Hopefully, no $ wasted on some incinerator. PRAYERS (or a moment of silence to pray or not to pray) prior to meetings. Be tolerant of those who DO pray, please, as those who choose to are tolerant to your right NOT to pray. CC's own remembrance of the tenth anniversary of 9/11 (sparsely attended, I noticed...no one on this forum was there, but me). Holding the line on real estate tax increases for CC residents. There are many more if you'd bother to really look at the positive instead of just the negative.

Regarding Celebrate Marriage Week? This is a NATIONAL celebration and the commish's simply stated that they supported a NATIONAL celebration. What do you all have against marriage, except for the fact that the term doesn't include (so far) gays?

Go ahead...tear me apart now, just like you always try to do.

"A non issue for most" ~ meaning the very vast majority...

Withavengeance, thank you for recognizing that Carroll County does have a gay-lesbian population, and that this issue does affect our citizens, not just those that are, but also friends & families of LGBT. Take that into account, and it's a significant part of our communuity, and as such, they deserve to be represented as equal citizens of the county, because they are. If the BOC cannot refrain from acting on their personal beliefs and biases while representing as a county official, then, as with any other position or title, they should all step down.

With regards to the controversy of the main topic of Marriage Week and this article, you keep saying it, but it seems that you aren't hearing yourself. It's a national issue. It's a state issue. It is not a county issue by way that our BOC have no legislative say in this issue, only as individuals like the rest of us. The original issue on this forum is really quite simple and not about who should be allowed to marry. It is about the BOC using their position inappropriately & unethically to represent and try to influence a campaign in which they are not a part of (governmentally speaking). They did not get appropriate support or input, nor did they even try, to find out if their citizens supported this movement prior to implementing it. They took their personal views and portrayed them as county views. This is in conflict to their sworn duties as BOC and they should be held accountable. If they will not voluntarily reverse this decision and apologize, then they will need to held accountable by other means. They are not above the law nor their own ethics code. They are here to represent the people, and to do so, they must hear the people above and before themselves, as they swore to do.

With regards to prayer and silent time in their meetings, why would they not also extend this right to the schools and our children then?

I hope you don't feel this was meant to "tear you apart". It was simply meant to explore and understand. I still have yet to see a reply on why ior how it was within their duties to do this, regardless of election issues. This was not, and is not, a county vote, which is why others have said it is not a county issue for our officials to be involved with.

Thank you Bonnie, The reason for requesting them is to share them, as well as the process...

'With regards to prayer and silent time in their meetings, why would they not also extend this right to the schools and our children then?'

@ County Citizen: Because not allowing prayer in school is a FEDERAL law...thank you, O'Hare, may you rot. Even our national songs aren't taught anymore in schools, e.g., National Anthem, America the Beautiful, etc.

they are more than welcome to make fools, liars, and adulters, whatever--ON THEIR OWN TIME--Not wearing the hat of Carroll County Commissioner...THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE

For a town or county to vote, there has to be citizen support and involvement, neither of which this BOC has or tried to get prior to doing this. This was not an issue the town or county voted on during election. This was not on the ballot. There was not a survey or poll or anything taken to know what the county they represent would want them to vote. They are being irresponsible, and yes, once the bill passes for the state and the definition of marriage is expanded to all, then the discussion of whether it's okay to marry same-sex or not, will not be an issue legally. However, what the commissions did was unethical and that will be an issue, regardless of what happens with the marriage, until they are held accountable. They are in violation of the ethics code and they may be legally liable as well, that has yet to be determined. So no, sorry, EBurger, it's not a non-issue. It's not about the bill - it's about their misuse of power.

This just in....Mrs. Frazier supports traditional marriage between a man and woman. Commissioner Frazier has no comment.....Feel better? Let us know how that ethics code violation works out.

Yep, that would be perfect, if it came from the BOC. Let us know when they repeal the county proclamation and publicly apologize - that would go a very long way! thank you!

Wait a minute....I thought that the BOC swore an oath to uphold the Constitution...
Are there varying degrees of this oath..?? Or is it just a motion that they have to go through..?
I find it hard to imagine that the BOC pretends to ignore this type of blog. There is no justification for this type of behavior.... maybe that's it.. cowardice..

'Mrs. Frazier supports traditional marriage between a man and woman. Commissioner Frazier has no comment'

@ Eburger: Why should she have any further comment? Her statement says it all. She shouldn't HAVE to explain it further or defend herself!

What about the other 4 that seem to have their heads stuck in the sand??

Joe---AMEN

I would like to think that at least one of the commissioners would attempt to justify his or her actions here.... but that might involve some real individual thought... won't hold my breath...

Native...hating the sin is a far cry from hating the sinner. If you took the time to see how few voters put the board into office, you may begin to realize that the personal opinions.of these otherwise ordinary people..should remain that-PERSONAL....They are misusing their office...that is it--could not be made ANY clearer. No one disputes that they are entitled to their opinions--but when they wear the "Commissioner" hat...they automatically are operating at a different level--they have to put aside their own opinions and represent their constituents...The particular church mentioned is well-known for marginalizing minorities, other Christians, homosexuals...so many parts of our modern society...and in Carroll County has become a bank account for extreme points of view...and typically are more involved with politics in general because of their methods of networking...something the rest of us are not as dedicated to do. This is not slamming anyone, or a church...it is stated as a reality check only... I am entitled to my opinion and am not disparaging you by suggesting that your comments may be narrow minded... Live and let live...

I tend to think of it as seeking higher guidance.. stooping with both arms held high..
Did you respond to offer an explanation, or just a digger.... typical BOC supporter...

Native, The same ole crowd that gathers here does not like to me called a minority.....this small group likes to be considered the silent majority. They like to believe that the BOC reads all of their name calling, complaining to each other and outcrys for recalls, impeachments and ethics violations. Carroll County is conservative country and the BOC is the conservative voice. This is where typical BOC supporters come to be entertained.

Ahem. The Official Agenda for the Carroll County Board of Commissioners for this week (2/6-10/12) shows that on this very night, even as I type this, the following is taking place. Now WHO brought a church into this?

Friday ~ February 10, 2012
6:30 p.m. Church of the Open Door Annual Sweetheart Banquet
Westminster, Maryland
Commissioners Rothschild, Frazier & Shoemaker

I really don't believe in labels...too divisive...what I DO believe in is having a better representation of our elected officials rather than the extremists and nut cases that a couple of them appear to be. Religion should be left at the door...talk is cheap...and the actions of a couple of them are indefensible..saying to "ignore Neil Ridgely", yelling at me in an open Commissioner meeting--not the first time--changing how the public interacts with the elected officials...using the volatile word "Gestapo" to describe people who disagree with someone's point of view?? And we are paying them?? The faux forum on the environment??? The speakers were not recognized by main stream (hmmm...maybe I'm onto something here...)...the Agenda 21 baloney...telling the general public to "sue" if they don't like having names redacted in emails...there is a huge gap in confidence with the current BOC AND THEY DO NOT CARE!!! I suggested an interactive website for all the board members to have "sections" on their projects, etc. and a way for the general public to PUBLICLY exchange opinions, suggestions, praise....whatever....that was quite a while ago. Paying for Sweetheart banquet tickets and junk like that do not belong on the weekly agenda, but it IS an excuse to be paid back by our taxpayer dollars for any expenses... This board needs to re-evaluate what direction they are going in and stop being led by the nose ring by one member, and the syncophant who follows...

there's that wicked humor again...love it...

And you can just bet that at least one of them (cough, cough, Frazier, cough, cough) will be putting in for milage to and from the event, as she often does. Is that how you like to see your tax dollars spent?

So? Like I said before, just give them cars & they won't need to submit milage reports.

WOW... that church must REALLY have some clout... wonder if 3 commissioners have attended any other church function at one time...
Lame suggestion Native... Could you please explain the in appropriate actions of this BOC . The little dig comments are pointless... unless you can justify them..

why use the term "haters"--unnecessary and judgmental...people should respect other's opinions without those terms... If you were aware of the choices between using a private vehicle, and a County car...perhaps you would be more aware of the differences and understand why some people object...

WOW!! I'm not sure about some aspects of this...but it sure does paint a picture of what goes on in public...wonder just what goes on BEHIND those doors...Spread the word...great work to whomever...thanks for the site...

I'm pretty sure that as she is reading, she is very uncomfortable.... you can see.. as she toughs through it. In her heart of hearts she believes what she believes, but still knows that she is doing something that is kind of dumb... she just can't seem to figure it out... The others.. well... they really have no excuse. A clear violation of the Constitution as well as a mis representation of many if not most of the citizens of Carroll... Will this just go away...??

The tone in her voice is even a little fractured, considering there are no citizens in the audience.... she should have been comfortable in the element.
Very telling video....thanks..

I'd like to see a similar site that touts or supports the behavior of the BOC.. does one exist ?

I tried all that but just got the original article from the Eldersburg Patch...so what am I doing wrong???

Thought so..... still seeking the good stuff.... it's gotta be there....
I got the same Judith...the hotmail link didn't take me anywhere..

the one I originally saw was forwarded to me, but I would like to subscribe...any ideas of what might be happening...I put the eyeoncarroll@hotmail.com. in, but just get the Eldersburg Patch site... If you put it in your contacts list, it puts the address in, but you still don't get anything but a blank....help?!

That website is a real eye-opener...certainly gives another point of view to the public!!

now.... to get much more of the public to view it....thanks Patch..

fhttp://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04C02

Lots of statistics here, but if you look down the page under “ MONOGAMY VS. PROMISCUITY: SEXUAL PARTNERS OUTSIDE OF THE RELATIONSHIP”....Married Couples,.... you will see this stat and others. It takes a while, but if you read the entirety of this article highlighting various studies, it is filled with some staggering and revealing information that the ill-informed and misinformed don't know.