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Poll: Should Carroll County Invest in Gold?
Commissioner Richard Rothschild said he would like to see Carroll County diversify its holdings.
Commissioner Richard Rothschild recently told the county comptroller that he would like to explore the option of putting some county assets into alternate forms of low risk investments such as gold, silver and foreign currency.
"I was just hoping we could look at the possibility of taking 10 percent or so of our liquid assets and put them into some other alternate form of low risk investments that are inflation-proof so we have some protection in the case the dollar starts to go south," Rothschild said at a recent meeting of the board of Carroll County commissioners.
County Comptroller Rob Burk said such a move would be a complex process. He said it might require changing state law and that state delegates would have to get involved.
Burk said state laws and county investment policies determine how investments are managed.
"Our primary goal in investment policy is to focus on the security of the investment, ensure tax dollars are available when we need to spend them and to assure we have liquidy when we need to address obligations," Burk said.
Rothschild's comments came last week during a commissioners' meeting at which comptroller Burk recommended adding Multibank Securities, a brokerage investment firm, to the companies the county does business with. The board unanimously voted to approve the resolution as proposed by Burk.
Do you like Rothschild's idea? Should Carroll County diversify investments into gold, silver and foreign currency?
Cosmopolitan
8:54 am on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
I hear you can get a great exchange rate on Drachmas!
David A. Grand
9:36 am on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
This is but another in a long series of hairbrained ideas he's come up with, that aren't worth a pound of beans, and which should be viewed in the same light as was his apolyptic warning of this nation being on the "precipice" of collaspe." Not to mention the omimous threat posed to our very way of life by U.N. Agenda 21 he fostered.
David J Iacono
10:02 am on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
Richard Rothschild, the Glenn Beck of Carroll County. Next thing you'll see him peddling gold as an investment on Goldline. The problem with gold and silver is that these are highly speculative investments. If Rothschild wants to gamble with his money, great, but he has no right to gamble with taxpayer dollars. Haven't the banks done enough of that? We see what that resulted in.
Friedhard
10:15 am on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
Next he will be suggesting we stockpile ammo, canned goods, and "Crisis Garden" seed packets to feed ourselves through the pending collapse of Civilization As We Know It.
Native
10:56 am on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
Lol, here we go again, pile on the commissioners! So he wants to look into diversifying the investments, what's wrong with that? Seems to me he's being a good stewerd of the county's money. I see all you yahoos are poo pooing the idea of being prepared as well, especially you Fried! You were probably one of those idiots during the blizzard that complained about the lack of snow removal because you didn't prepare & "stockpile" food & beer. True Carroll Countians know what to do & can appreciate Rothschild's thinking.
Bonnie Grady
11:00 am on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
One has to wonder about the emotional state of a man who lives with such paranoia. Fear of the government taking his property, fear of identity theft, fear of others trying to silence him, fear of financial collapse, fear of minorities or the less fortunate, fear for his personal safety to the point that he has to carry a concealed weapon. What's next?....fear that the sky is falling? I don't know how the man sleeps at night. When will the other commissioners see what the rest of us see???
Native
7:59 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
Seems to me Bonnie that you folks are the only ones to be afraid of illusional things.
Buck Harmon
10:56 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
A man that demonstrates this degree of fear is not a free man, but rather , a man that reacts to fear alone...
Native
11:00 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
A man that does not fear is a fool. A wise man prepares himself for possibilities!
Buck Harmon
11:08 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
A person that is afraid to use their name is a fool without confidence..
..a..no..count.
George T
11:35 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
People who are not discreet can also be fools... with confidence.
Judith M. Smith
12:08 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
He's kidding, right??? And as far as fiscal matters...how quickly we forget Mr. Simpson, the faux forum, the all-but-invisible lobbyist, the Bible oriented for-staff-only Constitution class....com'on now Native...responsible ?? What other endeavors are being discussed behind closed doors...that 2 cent property tax reduction has already been spent...And by the way, just who DID pay for uprooting the homeless people on those two private pieces of property??? That should be looked into ....
Native
7:59 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
Talk about kicking a dead horse!
David J Iacono
1:14 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
The one thing about the right is that they never identify themselves. For example, the right-wing nut job that continually sends me anonymours hate mail because I exercise my first amendment rights. You know, the Constitution that the right says the love for temselves and to hell with everyone else. To Native, you can get by without food in Carroll County for several days but I'm not sure you'd last a few hours without the beer.
Native
8:00 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
You'll have to agree with me Dave that there are nutjobs on both sides of the aisle.
George T
1:44 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
Funny how some people throw around the words "fear" and "paranoia". Probably the same people who are all puckered up about party politics. What's the big deal about looking at investment alternatives to the dollar? People only need to open their eyes and see their food and gas bills to understand that the dollar is rapidly losing purchasing power. Metals have "increased" for the past 12 years, and this will likely continue, but not because they have become worth MORE - it's because the dollar has become worth LESS.
MaryAnn
3:56 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
I wonder what friend of his sells these things.
Native
8:00 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
Got any facts to back that up?
WatchingInMtAiry
5:26 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
We've all seen those late night infomercials on this topic. It's disturbing to think that one of our elected officials actually buys into it and would want to put our county reserves at such risk. I'm really beginning to question his state of mind. He seems to have serious emotional issues.
WatchingInMtAiry
5:36 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
Here's a very interesting article by Forbes magazine that discusses the current state of gold prices and if there is/has been a "gold bubble" developing
http://www.forbes.com/sites/feeonlyplanner/2011/08/28/gold-bubble-or-not
Article's conclusion: It is anybody’s guess when gold will correct, but it is very likely that it will be ugly when it does.
George T
6:04 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
WatchingInMtAiry, articles like that are a dime per dozen. The government and its friends at the Federal Reserve and Goldman Sachs want you to believe that the dollar is sound, while they keep printing it madly from thin air to fund everything from guns to butter. Because of this, the dollar (not gold) is one the greatest speculative investments, dying a protracted death as a former world reserve currency. It's simple supply and demand - the more they print, the more dilution and less value it has. At least gold cannot be produced from nothing. It has closed at a higher price for 10 straight years - not because of a bubble on its part, but because of the implosion of the dollar and other currencies. Gold had been a lynchpin to currencies for centuries and, when implemented properly, keeps monetary policy honest and stable. But few seem to be concerned about history or honesty these days. By the way, I would disagree with the Commissioner about investing in other foreign currencies, since none are much better than the dollar. While some may race ahead in performance, relative to the others, all fiat currencies are in a race to the bottom if they are backed by nothing more than faith that a sovereign government will always pay its debts.
McDaniel Student
8:18 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
No it's cool guys, he has to put it in foreign currency so he can send it to Africa to help that deposed prince of Kenya that has been emailing him. It seems pretty legitimate.
But on a serious note... why is this even a county commissioners business?
newsjunkie
9:39 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
It really isn't county business. That's part of the problem. The county isn't doing business with foreign countries. Why would the county need to invest in foreign currencies? Is Rothschild afraid Maryland will start trading in pesos and Carroll County won't be ready?
Buying gold is simply buying into someone else's marketing strategy. The rise in the value of precious metals can be directly linked to this doomsday marketing that occurs whenever the economy takes a downturn. It's a shame we have a commissioner who falls for this fear marketing.
Native
10:15 pm on Wednesday, March 21, 2012
I wonder if the county is doing business with foreign countries, possibly in their pension funds. Probably so, because of the need to have them diversified. Buying gold is absolutely not buying into someone elses marketing strategy, it part of being a smart investor. Along with silver, platinum, etc. And Junkie, you are wrong. As with the stock market, the precious metals values have risen when looked at in the long term. Sure there are ups & downs, but investing is not meant to be short term. Besides, all the commissioner is doing is inquiring as to the efficasy of investing, it's not definite.
Isabel DeFeo
1:58 pm on Thursday, March 22, 2012
How much of his money is invested in commodities? It's risky, and those ads are just driving a run that will dry up for most buyers. I would rather see the county's (our tax) money invested in solid traditional sources even if the ROI isn't all that high. Ask any financial planner or investment advisor or any other person in the industry (Rep or Dem - doesn't matter party affliation), and they will all advise you against this.
George T
3:13 pm on Thursday, March 22, 2012
Many investment advisers are just peddling crap that their brokerage firms wish to unload. But there are reputable advisers that will suggest that a relatively small percentage (10%?) of a portfolio be devoted to inflation-protected or inflation-hedged securities. The problem with traditional investments ROI is that they are now often negative in real terms. Money market interest rates don't match the true rate of inflation. CPI and other cooked-up official inflation rates reflect Enron-type accounting. You lose purchasing power holding dollars, if you are able to accumulate them at all because the price of everything is going up while wages are stagnant. This is a new investment paradigm, one that requires adaptation. The old days of sitting back and watching your money grow securely in what used to be conservative investments is over.
JoeEldersburg
4:25 pm on Thursday, March 22, 2012
Like with most things Rothschild pontificates about or has taken pride in wasting taxpayer money on, he doesn't understand the very basics of being a good fiduciary. There's a reason it's against the law to invest county surplus in speculative investments...it's called taking unnecessary risk. As someone else said, let his paranoid delusions govern his own personal investment decisions, not county government's. Just because his warped views of monetary policy make him think that holding dollars is risky, doesn't make it true. He'll say anything he can to be noticed. While he may be a savant to his sychophant followers, he's simply sounds ridiculous to those who know how to think for themselves! He's comfortably dispensed planning advice to professional planners and refuted global warming with pseduo-science. Why wouldn't he show prowess in investment advisory? He can probably cure cancer and talk to God too...just ask him!
newsjunkie
5:58 pm on Thursday, March 22, 2012
Amen!
Judith M. Smith
7:58 am on Saturday, March 24, 2012
Someone told me that they saw him walk on water...I didn't believe it though
Buck Harmon
8:47 am on Saturday, March 24, 2012
They were referring to that 80's waterbed commercial...
Edmund Klebe
6:23 pm on Thursday, March 22, 2012
The thing that is being missed is: Gold (and silver and platinum and palladium to a lesser extent) is NOT an investment, it IS savings.
Jackie Schrenker-Case
3:25 pm on Sunday, March 25, 2012
I wonder what is really driving Rothchild on this issue, paranoia or greed? No doubt there is a gold bubble and eventually it will correct, it did before and it will again. Guessing the timing of the bubble is not something to do with our tax dollars. If it is paranoia driving him, I love that fact that this flag waving all American politician is scared to invest in America and would like to divest in foreign currency. So much for investing in the US dollar and our economy, but that is nothing new.
So, I guess we are now going to outsource our currency?
Native
4:03 pm on Sunday, March 25, 2012
There's nothing driving him, you all need to stop creating something where there isn't. The article merely stated that he inquired as to possible alternative investments, no more, no less.
Buck Harmon
4:04 pm on Sunday, March 25, 2012
America does not have enough gold to back the currency that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank has printed at the continued request of our government.
That would make the US currency fiat currency... or in other words, not worth the paper it's printed on with nothing to back it up. Most people assume that the Federal Reserve Bank is a part of the US Government, buts in reality it is a privately held corporation not owned by the US or it's citizens....what an illusion ..!!
Native
4:07 pm on Sunday, March 25, 2012
Hence the need for foreign investments!
George T
8:55 pm on Sunday, March 25, 2012
That was very good, Buck. Here's what I don't understand: most people correctly identify the banks as the culprits in this crisis. They are being bailed out, at the expense of everyone else. The Federal Reserve is the central bank, and basically sets policy for all other banks. The main instrument of the Federal Reserve is the Federal Reserve Note (what we call dollars). Producing dollars out of thin air is basically all the Fed does, and can ever do. Gold is the antithesis of the dollar, and has represented restraint, stability and honesty in financial management for many centuries. But because some gold companies advertise with Glen Beck, at least half the country hates gold. How can most people hate the banks, AND hate gold? It's group-think, gone mad.
Buck Harmon
4:06 pm on Sunday, March 25, 2012
Rothschild is probably just responding to the gold adds that cover the websites that he hangs on...he knows nothing about investing county taxpayer funds..
Native
4:08 pm on Sunday, March 25, 2012
Maybe that's why he merely asked for advice, as the article said.
Buck Harmon
4:13 pm on Sunday, March 25, 2012
At this level of government , making dumb suggestions is a total waste of time...like most of the crap coming from this narrow minded clan of commish..
Bonnie Grady
2:59 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012
Jackie, excellent points. Native, did you watch the video, by chance? He did more than ask for advice. He admitted in open session that he had initiated an earlier conversation about this with the county comptroller. I don't think Rothschild makes inquiries; he makes demands that sometimes sound like inquiries. Go back and watch the tape. Our illustrious county commissioner denounces the American dollar, proclaims it will fail, and then instructs the comptroller to contact the legislature or the State Comptroller to see what can be done to change MD law. Honest to goodness, I think Rothschild is anti-American. He's certainly anti-US Government. And doesn't that seem odd, coming from someone who professes to bow at the feet of the US Constitution and is sworn to uphold it?
Native
9:19 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012
I don't blame him. The dollar's worth is falling in the world, the US's credit ratings have fallen because of the current administration's policies. That is why almost everyone is looking into other types of investments (precious metals, etc.).
George T
9:55 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012
Bonnie, you are fixating on the messenger (who I couldn't care less about, either way) but are completely wrong on the facts. It takes no man to denounce the dollar, it's falling value speaks for itself.
The framers of the Constitution understood the dangers of central banks and fiat currency, which is why the Constitution specifically states, in Article I, Section 10, Clause 1: No State shall…coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debt". That's why it took all the way until 1913 before the financial oligarchies could get their hooks into the Treasury, and Congress passed the anti-American Federal Reserve Act. Our currency became Federal Reserve Notes from that point on.
It's taken another hundred years for the fiat dollar to approach its death spiral. Things are about to get fast and ugly with the dollar. It won't survive this decade. The opposite is true for gold. Follow the smart money. Central banks were net-sellers of gold for decades, and only recently have become net-buyers.
Buck Harmon
10:06 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012
If the intent is to do some doomsday prepper investing...I would recommend that the County buy hands on physical gold.... maybe set up cash for gold County stations.... stockpile the hell out of it !
George T
10:18 am on Thursday, March 29, 2012
Why do you think all those "We buy your Gold" (for dollars) signs have popped up? The reason is not because they want to do any favors for you...
I prefer to not think of it as doomsday, but just common sense.
Physical is best. Not ETF's or other paper promises. I imagine that the County has access to a secure vault.