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Poll: Should Maryland Legalize Same-Sex Marriage?
O’Malley introduced legislation Monday to make same sex marriage legal.
Gov. Martin O’Malley has introduced legislation this week that would make same-sex marriage legal in Maryland.
Same-sex marriage was debated in Annapolis last year, but it ended up stalling in the House of Delegates.
This year, O’Malley said “momentum is growing” for same-sex marriage in Maryland, which has endorsements this month that include labor organizations AFL-CIO and SEIU 1199.
Washington, D.C., as well as six other states, have laws allowing same sex marriage, according to the Baltimore Sun.
“Other states have found a way to do this. We can find a way to do this too,” O’Malley said during a press conference Tuesday morning, which was posted on YouTube.
The Maryland Catholic Conference of Roman Catholics, as well as the Maryland Marriage Alliance, a group of churches and faith-based organizations, are among those who have mobilized to oppose the legislation.
The Maryland Marriage Alliance is sponsoring a rally in Annapolis at 6 p.m. Jan. 30 entitled “Rally for Marriage!” regarding the proposal. Marylanders for Marriage Equality, a group that supports same-sex marriage, is organizing phone banking sessions on the issue in the region.
Marylanders as a whole continue to be split on their feelings on same-sex marriage.
According to a poll published in January by Gonzales Research & Marketing, based in Arnold, 49 percent surveyed support a law allowing same-sex marriage, while 47 percent oppose it.
Weigh in below or in our Patch poll. Do you support same-sex marriage in Maryland?
Mahlia Joyce
7:00 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Legalize it already! No one loses anything.
Iru Kandji
7:33 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
What Mahlia said.....
Mark Patro
10:54 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
We might actually encourage stable relationships in the Gay Community if we support Marriage Equality.
steve James
2:57 pm on Sunday, January 29, 2012
as well as embarrass the str8 community with their 50% and rising divorce rate.
to say nothing of all the str8 people living together, bed sharing and not marrying
Bonnie Grady
10:59 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Surprised the county commissioners haven't weighed in on this here. This was such a big topic for them last year that they took time away from REAL county business to discuss, draft, sign and then celebrate a resolution against it. What a good use of our tax dollars...NOT!
John D. Witiak
11:45 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
That question is a no-brainer! Maryland should have legalized gay.marriage years ago.
John D. Witiak
Judith M. Smith
1:56 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
In this land of the "free and the brave"--this is a no-brainer....
Kathy
3:19 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
There is no constitutional reason to deny two adults the right to marry. Any objection is based on religious grounds. I respect anyone's right to their beliefs, but religious beliefs should not be the basis for a State's policy regarding civil marriage. I had clients who shared their lives together, and all their property, for over 55 years, but when one died, the other one had to pay taxes on the inheritance, as if they had been strangers. Had they been legally married for 55 minutes they wouldn't have had to pay taxes--this is blatant discrimination.
S&W
4:40 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
I'm no religious nut and I find the idea of two men or women marrying or just being together sickening. And then they want to have kids on top of that, let me see them pull that off without a donor of the opposite sex.
Judith M. Smith
5:00 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
"they" probably get sickened thinking about heteros...why in the world would someone even "think" about that??? And having children, regardless of how they are conceived, should be "their" choice. A committed couple choosing to have kids is their right...and regardless of the "parents"--orientation--there is probably more love toward those children than the ones that happen "by accident." because "they" have had to jump through more hoops to get that child. The legal issues should be enough of an argument to have the law changed.
steve James
2:59 pm on Sunday, January 29, 2012
I cant help it if you are so homophobic it makes you sick. Maybe you need a church that follows Jesus 2nd commandment - to love thy neighbor as thyself
Kathy
6:56 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
I get sickened when I see multiple body piercings, but I don't expect them to be outlawed. A societies' laws are not dependent upon the squeamishness of some of its members.
Judith M. Smith
10:43 am on Friday, January 27, 2012
a good one...
Buck Harmon
6:01 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012
What about just 1 piercing ? left or right ear...?
Kathy
10:41 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
I believe that God allows two piercings--one for each ear--before racking up the years in Purgatory!
steve James
12:41 am on Friday, January 27, 2012
thanks to all the good people supporting the love and commitment of our gay friends and neighbors to each other.
Sometimes I wonder if the opposition to equal marrige rights is because some hetero people are afraid they will be embarrassed by their own "live in sin" people and their own divorce rate - now at least 50% and counting
Equal marriage rights for our gay and lesbian friends and neighbors will strengthen the institution of marriage.
Bonnie Grady
1:52 am on Friday, January 27, 2012
I subscribe to the theory that the people who object to homosexuality are the ones who have the greatest curiosity about it. Was that Freud who said that? (Did I spell that wrong?)
withavengeance
11:20 am on Friday, January 27, 2012
Gay 'marriage'? No such animal. Call it whatever you want, but DON'T call it a 'marriage'. Marriage = 1 man + 1 woman...Period. And no, I am not a homophobe...I have friends who are gay. Gay men can be the very best of friends to a hetero woman.
@ Bon-Bon: Then I guess the MAJORITY of heterosexuals are all curious, lololol! I put 'majority' in caps because homosexuals are the MINORITY the last time I checked. There's nothing to be curious about...we know what it's about! Unlike some, I firmly believe that homosexuality is genetic in nature and not just a lifestyle choice.
I repeat...call it anything...a union...a partnership...but DON'T call it a marriage! There are many hetero couples who MARRY at a civil union and not a religious ceremony. Gays have already been given the exact same rights as heteros...e.g., employer provided health insurance for one another and the like.
Can't wrap my head around a man calling another man 'my wife'. People who live together without being married don't do that. I will continue to choose marriage as being one man plus one woman, no matter what the state decides. All others are unions or partnerships.
steve James
3:15 pm on Sunday, January 29, 2012
the problem with civil unions are they connote second class citizenship. In some situations, they are ignored and refused validity. Do you support more lawsuits in the mess we call our courts and legal system.
BTW I know this wont change many minds, but of the 8 or so W. European countries with CUs (almost all other have marriage), England, Denmark, Prob Scotland, Finland are on the path to change to Marriage.
Ireland, that bastion of catholocism - 2/3 of the people there support changing CUs to marriage. Same issue going on in Australia.
The catholic church has dug its own hole in Ireland. I noted that Pope Benediict recently said he was going to cut the d# of diocese from 21 to 10. Polls and church attendance show that In ireland, where 10 years ago 90+% of the people went to Mass regularly, now only 25% do.
If the church wants to "commit virtual suicide" I cant stop it, But I think that catholic teaching says that suicide is a grave sin.
The problem with many religions is they are based on faith. Let one item change, and they fear the whole edifice will crumble. So they often want to live in the dark ages forever.
Mark Patro
4:40 pm on Sunday, January 29, 2012
The meaning of words change over time. English speaking people used the word "gay" before 1900's to mean "happy". Our culture has used this word in a different way resulting a new meaning. This is not the only example. We have a right to initiate new concepts and change institutions. A Catholic told me just yesterday that we, as faithful people, have a moral duty to worship God independently if our institutions fail us. And, we also have a responsibility to work to change or tear down institutions that are harming our spiritual lives. So to your claim that we are redefining marriage, I say "So what!" It’s the "one man & one woman" institution alone that fails to serve a big enough moral purpose to people that want to share their lives together. Homophobes & anti-gay people are becoming the minority. They can maintain smaller institutions for themselves, but the rest of us will move on. Christianity in itself has moved on. A majority of Christians now support marriage equality. It’s time to support "relationships." The irony in your one man/one woman argument is that people like you often say that gay people are promiscuous and then they want to disallow them the chance to create a dedicated relationship. People putting forth this argument cannot have it both ways. Everyday citizens recognize this fallacy in your argument. I'm sorry for you, that Christianity has moved along and left you behind. Maybe you should think about catching up.
withavengeance
11:22 am on Friday, January 27, 2012
And if this one passes (ugh), the first time I see a transgender in the ladies' restroom, I'm going to scream my head off! Outdoor plumbing does NOT belong in the restroom as those who have indoor plumbing.
Judith M. Smith
12:33 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012
gee, I grew up in a suburb of Boston with my dad and three brothers...my mom as well. and the bathroom-just one--was shared by all of us. Do you have any idea how funny, and senseless that comment was...evidently you have never been to Europe...or used a bathroom at a gas station...or any number of other facilities where there was only one toilet. And you know, perhaps you have been in a toilet stall right after a "Trans"...that thought alone makes me chuckle. At least you have the generosity of spirit and knowledge to understand that gender choices are not really a choice--why in the world would anyone "choose" to live what can often be a very difficult and complicated lifestyle...
JC
1:35 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012
Aw, let 'em marry. Why shouldn't they be as miserable as the rest of us?
Iru Kandji
8:51 am on Saturday, January 28, 2012
Old joke JC...stale...
JC
9:30 am on Saturday, January 28, 2012
But still relevant. And still funny!
withavengeance
12:05 pm on Saturday, January 28, 2012
@ Judy: Ah, Massachusetts! Lib capital of the East coast. But that just may be changing since the deceased 'Kennedy' seat (though he sure didn't own it, just thought he did) was lost to a conservative).
Your family's bathroom is NOT a public restroom....one goes into a family bathtroom and does their business privately, ALONE (oh, could I ever make an insulting comment here, but I won't). Same as any bathroom that has a single toilet. The rule is 'knock and lock'. You've never done this? How sheltered. If a trans used that type of restroom before me, I don't really care, as long as when I'm in there, a trans isn't. Or any other strange female or male, for that matter. I'm also sure that men would not like a trans using their public facilities either.
I stand by what I wrote earlier. Your response was not well thought out.
Judith M. Smith
12:20 pm on Saturday, January 28, 2012
gees...you did bite on the Boston reference...that was an "on purpose." Your comments are just so silly... I am trying to figure out whether the bathrooms you go to in a public place are like in the service...with no partitions so you truly are not "alone"...the ones I go to -- in public places--usually have doors...on stalls...so maybe there IS a trans in the stall next to you...oh horrors...what are they doing in here??? We might actually CATCH something...this conversation is just so funny...and I am so glad that you keep posting... Oh, and sometimes my family would have guests over...sometimes they were family, sometimes friends...so does that make our one bathroom "public?" You have provided me with some real chuckles...and probably some other people as well....thanks
withavengeance
1:17 pm on Saturday, January 28, 2012
Sigh! Glad you find me so amusing, just as I find you. You just don't get it, do you? Read this veeeerrrry slowly: The men's room has public urinals...I don't think they'd appreciate a trans woman trying to use one, lololol! I can just picture that, ROFL! The men would know a trans as he/she (what I call them) because the he/she would be all dolled up like a she, splorf! Vice versa with the women :D
Those guests in your home presumably used your bathroom privately and locked it, I hope? Or did they share it with the opposite sex? Or did you all have kinky guests?
Our military despise the repeal of 'DADT', all that is except for the gay ones. Have you used public restrooms without stalls? Thought not. I have total empathy for our military who are stuck with this barbaric lack of privacy.
Haven't you ever travelled and used a restroom in a Jiffy Mart while stopping for gas, as just one example? Haven't you ever had to wait in a line for the one-toilet bathroom to be free? Haven't you ever knocked to see if it's occupied? Haven't you ever been the one in the bathroom who, upon hearing the knock, say 'just a minute'?
I repeat, if transgenders are allowed in the ladies' room, I will scream to high heaven. Man, you are so obtuse, it's funny as all get out! I think peeps here are having a good chuckle...on you.
Judith M. Smith
5:14 pm on Saturday, January 28, 2012
Have you ever seen a men's bathroom??? Do you really think those wall urinals are for only urine??? You're right about how this has become a side issue...and you insert new subjects in almost every post...i.e., DADT....so we went from gay marriage, to transexuals, locked bathroom stalls, me being a liberal...Kennedy...empathy for open bathrooms in the service (I hear they have them in prisons too...just what I've heard...so no need to make any comment...) Oh...about those urinals...if you have a man in your life, or a brother-type, perhaps he can point out to you that there are still regular toilets in men's rooms...where the men can SIT and do what every human has to do in a sitting position...see how slowly I read and understood how ludicrous your comments are?? One thing we definately can agree on...we are amusing ourselves and any readers...perhaps we should discuss something more serious??? Open minds-IN Closed minds-OUT
steve James
3:05 pm on Sunday, January 29, 2012
maybe we'll have to require single bathrooms for all. And or do like is done in parts of Europe etc - they only have one type of restroom. All the "facilities" are in floor to ceiling stalls with heavy wooden separators.
Beyond that get over your stagefright. BTW potential solutions are much simpler and less expensive then the similar obejctions we got when sidewalks at corners etc were ripped up to provide for wheel chair people.
withavengeance
1:19 pm on Saturday, January 28, 2012
Oh, and how we've digressed from the original story here, LMAO!
withavengeance
10:31 am on Sunday, January 29, 2012
There are many points in my comments you've failed to respond to. Therefore, the best way to 'argue' with a fool is thru silence.
Judith M. Smith
4:08 pm on Sunday, January 29, 2012
a final note...why in your posts do you find it necessary to use words like the above post: "fool"..."obtuse."...personal labels do not make your side of this discussion any more true than the posters who have not labeled you... And I am waiting for YOUR response about the facilities in most men's rooms--perhaps you have had time by now to inquire...
Judith M. Smith
5:34 pm on Sunday, January 29, 2012
Mark...you are right on point about how the meaning of words change...and in this particular case the definition of marriage should include, not exclude, unions between people regardless of sex...it includes the legal ramifications but does not exclude the religious implications. To have a belief system that is so narrow is, in my mind, not Christian at all...I am not familiar with other religions so do not know about their tenets...and somewhere in my own personal beliefs, I often wonder about how mankind is so arrogant as to think they can understand God and the things that follow from...Mankind's arrogance...
Judith M. Smith
5:38 pm on Sunday, January 29, 2012
As an afterthought: please, please don't tell me the Bible is "God's word"...if you choose to believe that--it is your choice. There are so many other religions in this world...WORLD..who do not believe it...and it is an example of that "arrogance" to think that any other way is "wrong." And, by the way, I was brought up in a very devout Catholic family with an uncle as a Jesuit priest...so don't jump on me...
withavengeance
12:16 am on Monday, January 30, 2012
@ Judy...don't know why I bother to reply, but I've had occasion to be in men's restrooms when I was young, because the women's had too long a line & my legs were crossed :) I well know what they're like. I've also had many unfortunate occasions to have to use a spot-a-pot. I can just imagine two men or two women or 1 man or 1 woman in one. And yes, you are a fool and obtuse. May as well argue with a rock.
Judith M. Smith
3:01 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012
HUH??? why would two people of any persuasion have to use a spot-a-pot at the same time, unless they are doin' the "wild" thang... I am truly flattered by your portrayal...it genuinely reveals you more than I...
withavengeance
12:18 am on Monday, January 30, 2012
I must repeat: The best way to 'argue' with a fool is thru silence.
Judith M. Smith
3:03 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012
look in the mirror--you are arguing with yourself...I really thought this more a "discussion" rather than an argument...more differences of opinion need light shed on the points of view instead of heat...
Sue Keller
6:01 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012
The funny thing about the transgender person in the restroom argument is that the transgender person wants to be just like you - whatever gender the sign on the door is. So just being transgendered doesn't mean that person is going to hit on you nor expose their genitalia to you nor act inappropriately with you. With your transgender bias, shouldn't you also want to ban homosexual women from the women's bathroom? It's nonsensical. In all my years, I have never been hit on in a bathroom or locker room by anyone who is homosexual or transgendered. And yes, there was a transgendered man to woman at my college in the early 1980s. Withavengeance, I suggest you go to the bathroom before you leave home from now on.
Judith M. Smith
7:03 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012
thanks...that was a goodie....there are so many comments I'd like to make, but refrain because they are uncharitable...
Buck Harmon
6:14 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012
Nature.... taking it's course again....the nerve of nature...causing such confusion.
The points of contention with regard to same sex marriage, all stem around money when the line hits the bottom. Money sure does cause a lot of problems..
Judith M. Smith
7:04 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012
I don't understand your point...???!!
JoeEldersburg
10:24 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
Here's the point...it's about civil rights, plain and simple. Pretend for a minute we're talking about any other minority group throughout the history of our country, who is and was discriminated against. These are people of flesh and blood, just like us. If Withavengeance could only imagine in her intolerant little mind what it is like to be discriminated against for what makes her different, she might begin to empathize with the reasons for same sex marriage. Until then, we'll all be forced to hear her pathetic excuses for putting her religious views above everyone else's. Thankfully it's a minority view that the state should determine who may be married and who may not and public opinion has turned. Nobody is forcing churches to perform gay marriages. It's a fundamental form of discrimination not to allow all human beings the same right to marry.
Kathy
6:15 am on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Very well said, except that I am not sure that discrimination is the MINORITY view, at least here in Carroll County. It is changing however, and most young people don't have the same mindset as their intolerant elders --my kids in high school and their friends are so much more evolved than we were at that age!
Buck Harmon
10:24 am on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Key word... evolved.. thank you Kathy...only problem with that is they tend to have a need for more holes in their body...
It's a shame that our system attempts to mold human beings~ we evolve regardless...
We should focus more on ways of treating each other better as we evolve together..
Enjoy watching my grandson evolve too.
withavengeance
12:24 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
In no way did I ever mention religion, Judy. I said nothing at all about the Bible or any other religious doctrine. Two homosexual women in the ladies' room...no problem...they have the correct equipment to be there, same as men. A transgender in the ladies' (or mens') restroom? I have a problem with that. People with outdoor plumbing, when using a public restroom, belong in the mens' room and people with indoor plumbing when using a public restroom, belong in the ladies room. What one does with one's own private restroom in their own home is their business and no one else's.
And your are sooo wrong...I have been discriminated against and still would be if I decided to tell the whole world why. Many celebrities and professionals have 'come out' about this issue, but the stigma is still there, especially with employers. So I choose not to talk about it except with a very small circle of friends & professionals. I don't need the drama. And I refuse to be put on the defensive.
I'm not discriminating against gays OR transgenders....it's the plumbing issue in the wrong restroom that unsettles me. If that makes me intolerant, then so be it.
Ok, I'm done being 'put on the defensive' here, so have a nice day.
Judith M. Smith
4:47 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
do you expect to "see" their equipment??? This whole discussion is way over for me...
Buck Harmon
3:03 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Not sure how restrooms and gay marriage tie together, but maybe a third relief facility can be developed.... men's, women's and tweener's for those in transition. This would assure everyone equal privacy where relief is sought.
I believe that the law should leave perceived moral issues related to marriage to the individual, not a perceived god, not an insurance policy, not lawyers or judges, and certainly NOT elected official public servants.
Why does everything seem to boil down to who will be able prevail in law suits seeking equal treatment
.Discrimination has plagued human beings since the days of caves. Legislation will never fix it.....interesting debate though.
withavengeance
1:41 pm on Friday, February 3, 2012
Sweet Jesus, Judy! If someone is a man dressed and made up like a woman, I don't need to see his/her equipment to know he/she is a man! Get over yourself, lady.
Bonnie Grady
6:04 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
I like Joe's point. Let's imagine this was any other group of folks. Instead of members of the LGBT community, let's say this conversation is about....smokers. Smokers are in the minority now. We all know people who smoke, but they're definitely not viewed with acceptance the way they used to be. I don't like to be around people who smoke because I find the odor offensive. So what if we said "smokers can't dine in restaurants where nonsmokers dine" because the stench of smoke on their clothing makes others uncomfortable? What if we said "smokers can't be around children because they might cause children to want to smoke." What if we said "Smokers can drink from public water fountains" because their smoke-covered lips might touch the place where the water comes out? What if we said "Smokers can't use public restrooms" because they might light one up in there? What if we said, "Smokers can't buy life insurance or health insurance" because they tend to have more health issues than the rest of the population? What if we said "smokers can't marry?" because.... because... because... oh yeah, they're just like everyone else, aren't they? Even you, Pammy Hammy.
withavengeance
12:02 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Your point being, Bon-Bon? ROFL!
Bonnie Grady
12:51 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
That we all deserve equal rights. Now, that wasn't so hard, was it?
withavengeance
6:47 am on Saturday, February 11, 2012
Smokers no longer have equal rights, even though it's perfectly legal to do so. Too hard for you, Bon-Bon?
Pamela Zappardino
6:29 pm on Monday, February 13, 2012
Our constitution guarantees all citizens basic civil rights...it's that simple... pass marriage equality!
Judith M. Smith
12:27 am on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Why in the world are we paying our BOC to go to Annapolis on a "mission" (couldn't help myself using that word...) to protest a legal issue that has nothing to do with the "mission" of being a Carroll County Commissioner....and to thing WE are paying for this illegal and costly over-reaching (to use one of the BOC's favorite phrases) involvements in an over-their-pay-grade endeavors....