This is the most divisive spin to a film which very much shows BOTH sides to this issue...Dennis Michael Lynch is NOT a racist....I am against illegal ANYTHING, including immigration and I am NOT a racist....Divide and Conquer is the ONLY message you wish to paint on this issue...What's wrong with LEGALLY immigrating to America....When did the term LEGAL immigration become such a problem fir the left??????

Well, lets see, first off, these Illegals there didnt even stay for the film which shows both sides of the issue which ANSWER who are proponents of US Troops being killed, themselves didnt stay. They did not want to see or hear the facts. They are the racists and xenophobes and Director Dennis Michael Lynch even took on 2 Illegal Immigrants, one of which he had at his house with him, building an outdoor unit and got their side of the story, I guess the Racist group Casa De Maryland, MD Dreamers and ANSWER should have stayed for the whole thing and gotten the facts, instead, they went out to everyones car, violating Campus Laws by placing mis-information literature on everyones car. Shame on them, they are the racist and they are here illegally, which was described in the MOVIE as breaking the law.

What a load, CASTRO! That's all you got? I was at the Carroll County show your dream babies stayed for FIVE minutes and then walked out in a hissy because they didn't like the truth being shown. They can't handle the TRUTH! Dennis even ran out to try and speak with them. He is a lot nicer than I would be. Quite frankly I have had it up to HERE with your ILKs demands! Who ever would have thought that we would one day have illegal aliens telling WE THE PEOPLE, that is the tax paying legal citizens what to do? This is Orwell's 1984 and I'm not too happy about it!
CASA de Maryland needs to be thoroughly INVESTIGATED and shut down..they are "The Illegal Alien's ACORN!". They run our corrupt state.They register illegal aliens to vote. I hear your group is tied to subversion.You and your kind hate this country. You are in the right state because We have a corrupt machine running this state. O'Malley, Gansler, et al are a total DISGRACE. The media is completely bought and sold, and tax paying citizens don't even know what is going on behind the scenes.Well there are people like we activists who DO! We are watching the evildoers We cannot have a sovereign nation without borders. My ancestors helped to build this country. They fought in wars for this country. I'm not giving it away to people who feel they are entitled to just run over the borders and take from us.
BTW Dennis Lynch got a standing O!

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FOR EVERY DOLLAR THEY PAY IN TAXES THEY COST US 3. I AM SICK OF BEING CALLED THE "R" WORD EVERYTIME YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH. How many Third world indigents can the country hold before we run out of resurces and lose everything America has stood for including our language?? Join numbersusa and get the facts on immigration and the population explosion.

A.N.S.W.E.R. is a front of the Stalinist Workers World Party. It praised Iraqi insurgents for killing US soldiers, and supports Hammas, Castro, North Korea and cop-killers.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/answerprofilestand.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.N.S.W.E.R.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers_World_Party

A.N.S.W.E.R comes from outside Maryland. Why are they meddling in our politics? Who's paying them to come here?

I wish they had publicized that this movie was going to be shown. I would like to see the entire thing (instead of just a YouTube Trailer). From the advertising clips that I saw, it seems like most of it took place on the Mexico-US border and dealt primarily with South American/Mexican immigration, in particular those individuals involved in the drug trade. Did anyone here actually see the movie? Does anyone know if there are plans for another showing?

WONDERFUL, TRUTHFUL movie.

Thank you, Dennis, on behalf of the THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of construction workers who are US citizens and can't find jobs because of the unfair competition of the "undocumented" who will work CHEAP. Too cheap to pay for a mortgage and their FAIR share of taxes. BRAVO, Dennis. Simply BRAVO!

I watched the film and it's not a surprise that no one wanted to publicize.

Dennis off to NC.. I think for NC Fire with Maureen Wilson and James Johnson..

Was this a private viewing specifically for the local Tea Party group or was the public made aware of this event?
If the intent of this movie is to educate the dumbed down public why not post the film on line and share the link for all to see Michelle Jefferson?
If this was a private deal then I would say that the intent was to fuel the mob mentality of this local group.
To date, what positive effect has the local spin of a tea party group had for our communities? They certainly haven't assisted in the offering of a decent candidate for president.

This was NOT a private event and was open to everyone. Certain groups were kind enough to host it. It was advertised on Radio and via email messages

Buck it was posted in many on line forums and events on facebook. NOT tea party specifically..If you want some links where I posted i'll send them on. Also many of our talk radio stations informed people wcbm.. wbal and others.. I consider myself Tea party.. A bi-partisan democrat and activist mostly regarding the cost of immigration and our laws not being enforced.. We don't have a mob mentality and if you were there ans saw the movie you would understand that this movie showed "all aspects of Illegal aliens entering the U.S." Their side of it and the side of our struggling workers and high taxes we now pay because we support them.. I consider myself tea party because every day I do a small part to educate people who are blinded of the issues because of our elected officials refuse to talk about it. Did you know that Md is a sanctuary state for New Americans *aka* Illegal aliens thanks to our governor and others that cater to them with our jobs,welfare and benefits and support their many kids. They average 5. Are you also aware that it cost us $1billion a year in Md to educate their children through grade 12 and now they want us to subsidize their college education with inhouse tuition costing Md taxpayers Millions or more. these are students from 18-80.. continued..

continued When will it ever be enough. Also Md taxpayers pay $2bilion a year for them being on welfare and benefits like food stamps medicaid sec8 housing and so on.Of course many people say they work and pay taxes but most work under the table getting paid cash and don't pay taxes and the ones that do put down many dependants they don't have to pay as little as possible if any taxes.Casa de Md has 5-7day labor camps where they admit that 80% of the immigrants are illegal and they connect them to employers for jobs.Mostly cash jobs. Also it is a felon to knowingly hire them or rent to them and its against the laws for illegals to work. Very few are becoming citizens because then they would have to pay real taxes and prove their dependants with legit SS #'s.Very few are becoming citizens because its more productive to stay illegal. Md is now #4 in taxes and #2 in food stamp fraud.Let me know if i can help you understand.also check the news yesterday about Billions being paid to illegals using our tax $$ because they claim many dependants they don't have and reaping in the benefits.They also use many names and get many taxes returned.Google it.As far as a good candidate my first choice was bachman and not a fan of romney but I surely didn't know anything about this man when I opposed him. He is the best overall. its a long list of accomplishments under romney.He gave away his family fortune and made his own money.He made $millions giving millions a job. Google Romney wiki.

Eric is more than likely affiliated with CASA-just a hunch. No specifics in his review of "why no one wanted to publicise".

This is a film worthy of an Oscar. I am a tough film critic. I have acted my whole life and done professional and semi professional work. I have also studied tv, film production and editing and broadcasting. So, I think I can be the judge of a well made film. My review: Crisply edited, moving, painfully sad, scary, funny and at times
heart stopping. Every American who cares about this country surviving
should see this film- The most fasciniating thing is that Dennis Lynch did not have an agenda when he started this film. He saw a man protesting at a 7-11 against illegal aliens steeling jobs. Dennis jumped out of his car with his camera and started filming. He wanted to get the story. He got the story

An interesting turn of events- after the" ANSWER" kids left after five minutes (Yes CASTRO - your kids) of the first Maryland viewing on 8/7- they decided to turn up again at the 8/8 viewing in Rockville. This was a smaller space and people were sitting on the floor and had to be turned away. The kids had tape on their mouths for some symbol of not being heard. They warmed up to the movie as they watched it. They had pizza and talked to Dennis and wanted their pictures taken with him! He said they were nice kids. They have been sadly misdirected and USED by groups like CASA de MD and ANSWER.
The groups that are running Maryland are far leftist radical groups. Read this lilnk about massive welfare fraud going to illegal aliens in this state. Why do you think there are huge deficits every year? WAKE UP PEOPLE!!
http://www.aim.org/special-report/casa-de-maryland-the-illegal-immigrants-acorn/

Check out this fascinating expose written by James SImpson- posted in Accuracy in Media- (many of us were interviewed for this exceptional piece)

Good Grief Buck! Can't you use google! The film is called "They Come to America" This is the website: theycometoamerica.com - the film maker is Dennis Lynch
You can order the film online. Geese........is that enough information for you?

Buck here's the link for you. and if someone offered to lend it too you they were trying to help you out and save you $$.. and Buck you haven't did your homework on Romney. I do not want 4 more years of obama .. we are 16 trillion in debt and millions of foreclosure every year and his amnesty is just a way to get more votes from hispanic community and they know it.. If he wanted to grant amnesty and all these other issues he's bring out now , he would of done it a long time ago. I'd vote for you if i could get obama gone but i really like romney.. all i can say is employed millions and obama hasn't..now he wants to employ more illegals..

http://www.theycometoamerica.com/

Buck..you are not making any sense. I know you know how to google That's all you needed to do.

His full Name is: Willard Mitt Romney
Many of you, including me, may not have thought this was the best choice, but I found some of this information to be very enlightening.
His full Name is: Willard Mitt Romney He was Born: March 12, 1947 and is 65 years old.
His Father: George W. Romney, former Governor of the State of Michigan
He was raised in Bloomfield Hills , Michigan
He is Married to Ann Romney since 1969; they five children.
Continued>

Education: B.A. From Brigham Young University,
J.D. And M.B.A. From Harvard University
Religion: Mormon - The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-Day Saints
Working Background:
After high school, he spent 30 months in France as a Mormon Missionary.
After going to both Harvard Business School and Harvard Law School
Simultaneously, he passed the Michigan bar exam, but never worked as an
Attorney.
In 1984, he co-founded Bain Capital a private equity
Investment firm, one of the largest such firms in the United States
In 1994, he ran for Senator of Massachusetts and lost to Ted Kennedy.
He was President and CEO of the 2002 Winter Olympic Games
and gave them millions to continue on. In 2002, he was elected Governor of the State of Massachusetts where he eliminated a 1.5 billion deficit.
Facts about Romney:
Bain Capital, starting with one small office supply store
In Massachusetts, turned it into Staples; now over 2,000 stores
Employing 90,000 people.
Bain Capital also worked to perform the same kinds of
Business miracles again and again, with companies like Domino's, Sealy,

Brookstone, Weather Channel, Burger King, Warner Music Group, Dollarama,
Home Depot Supply, and many others.
He was an unpaid volunteer campaign worker for his dad's
Gubernatorial campaign 1 year.
He was an unpaid intern in his dad's governor's office for 8 yrs.
He was an unpaid bishop and state president of his church for 10 yrs.
He was an unpaid President of the Salt Lake Olympic for 3 yrs.
He took no salary and was the unpaid Governor of Mass for 4 yrs.
He gave his inheritance from his father to charity.
Mitt Romney is one of the wealthiest self-made men in our
Country but has given more back to its citizens in terms of money,
Service and time than most men.
And in 2011 Mitt Romney gave over $4 million to charity,

Mitch Romney Continued for buck..
Almost 19% of his income.Just for comparison purposes, Obama gave
1% and Joe Biden gave $300 or .0013%.
Mitt Romney is Trustworthy: He will show us his birth certificate
He will show us his high school and college transcripts.
He will show us his social security card.
He will show us his law degree.
the US.
He will show us his draft notice.
He will show us his medical records.
He will show us his income tax records.
He will show us he has nothing to hide.
Mitt Romney's background, experience and trustworthiness
Show him to be a great leader and an excellent citizen for President of
The United States. You may think that Romney may not be the best representative the Republicans could have selected. At least I know what religion he is, and
That he won't desecrate the flag, bow down to foreign powers, or practice
Fiscal irresponsibility. I know he has the ability to turn this financial
Debacle that the current regime has gotten us into. We won't like all the
Things necessary to recover from this debt, but someone with Romney's
Background can do it. But, on the minus side, He never was a "Community
Organizer", never took drugs or smoked pot,
Never got drunk, did not associate with communists or terrorists, nor did
He attend a church whose pastor called for God to damn

Buck.. try my link and its a brand new movie premiered in Md. Not trying to hide anything but to educate the people on immigration issues. The good bad and ugly.. Have a nice day..

Buck. he's doing it for free now.. Geez.. he's trying to do is sell some dvd's to pay for his cost for traveling across country and its not just gas.. Hotels for his crew, food etc. He's not rich. Give him a break.. He's informing and doing something rather then nothing!! I agree with all living freely as long as their freely don't cost others $$ and jobs as it's doing now..

Buck on his website he has clips you can watch for free.. i don't think it would go anywhere by making a you tube.. Not only is Dennis lynch exposing immigration issues, after the movie its open discussion time.. A time for people to be informed and educated and discuss. This movie received a standing ovation many times by all. It is bipartisan.. Many who watched had no idea this was happening. Many live in secluded areas and in counties where none of this is an issue. In Maryland if you drive through baltimore city and pg county you'll see..

He does not get paid for these events and REFUSES to take donations. His video is 19 bucks and with that he gives 2 free videos and asks people to share them- give them away. He told me that a very inexpensive rental film will be online in a few months. He works as a filmmaker. He has kids to feed. None of us are getting a dime. He is a smart guy. He is promoting this via grass roots. You can't get more grass roots than us.

Buck. i am not affiliated with this show at all. Not up to me to make decisions on this film and he's not in it for money but informing. Most of the events will be free or very low cost to cover cost of hall/auditorium or where ever. He will also do very small groups and large.. and i don't belong to any specific group but attend many meetings to keep informed with all groups both democrat and republicans especially regarding our corrupt politicians and immigration issues and our tax $$ and jobs going to them.. Have a nice day. off to work..

reading again your above post regarding a 100 turned away.. it was no room.. held at library and if they could squeeze in they were allowed..

I have had many issues with Patch...My latest issue after the issue where I could not post any reply is this....I no longer receive updates to any article I post on...I have NEVER touched my account....I DO however debate ferociously with the Occupy Patch Mob who Patch adores.....Buck Harmon being one of them.....If this were such a "secret viewing" Buck Harmon, perhaps you could tell us how it is Patch was able to be there to write and video this article??? And why is it that Patch did not alert it's readers about the viewing, since they felt it is such a controversial issue????

Judy Bach, Erick is a dreamer....

Yes JoAnn..it is easy to tell. The dream kids actually stayed for the Rockville showing. At least I give them credit for doing that instead of walking out when they saw something that they didn't like in the film like they did at the Carroll Co College showing. The illegal aliens actually said they didnt' want to live in America but were just coming here and senidn it all home. I knew a guy who told me how wonderful it was in Guatamala and that he and his father were building a HUGE ranch back in his country. He told me how wonderful Guatamala was. Meanwhile we have construction workers, drywall workers, etc who are losing their homes and can't make a living. In a addition to CASA de MD helping illegal alien to find jobs did you know that they actually TEACH courses in electrical work, plumbing, drywall etc to these illegal aliens?? Nice eh, JoAnne? It makes me furious and needs to stop.

Go to the prisons Judy Bach??? Criminals get the red carpet rolled out to them by the bleeding heart liberals....Meanwhile back in Guatamala you get your hand chopped off if you're a thief.....this spreadin the wealth around has been going on for sometime...and the RINO Republicans are equally guilty....

Legal employers should be the focus here. If it weren't for legal employers hiring these human beings there would not be a problem. To make the focus target less fortunate human beings with ill sounding labels is an effort in the wrong direction. I blame all of the problem on the employers, and the efforts to stop the situation should be directed specifically on them. Bad law, politics, and greed driven legal employers are the problem, not the less fortunate individuals willing to work their asses off to improve their own life situation. The narrow mind focus on the workers will never change a thing.

i blame employers but i also blame illegals who use and abuse our systems while working our jobs. It is a felon to hire and rent to them. Laws aren't being enforced. They send their money back to mexico while being crammed into their living quarters. Landlords are making a fortune off them charging average of $100 per person per week..i blame our politicians first..

Buck Harmon...you'd better look a little further down that nose...If it weren't for an IRS who issues TIN numbers to these people and then could care less about follow up on tax returns, allowing child credits where they are not allowed costing the taxpayers BILLIONS of $$, a Governor who has violated the Constitution, a president who pats him on the head federally, gives these people healthcare, housing, food, SCHOOL, and a corrupt AG (Eric Holder) and his minions (Thomas Perez), protects ALL of the criminals...WHY WOULDN'T AN EMPLOYER BE TEMPTED?????

licensing boards and unions are to blame for the lousy work ethic...they do nothing but snuff out competition all in the name of public protection and do little, very little of that...once again the ball drops at the foot of the government....and not every construction worker is lazy...I've met many who are extremely hard workers and have lost their jobs to illegals...why? Because the employer pays the illegal under the table, pays a smaller hourly wage, skips on the FICA taxes, unemployment insurance, health insurance and the list goes on...

Buck, do you have a problem with someone making a movie about government corruption?

Liberal media and Hollywood won't give this guy the time of day...Don't think for one minute he hasn't tried to get this movie out for public viewing. It is a wonderful documentary...truly showing the human side of this issue...but it quickly smacks you back to reality by showing you the snowball effect of illegal immigration...the cost to the taxpayer is staggering....and these disgusting politicians on both sides of the political spectrum prostitute your hard earned tax dollars for a vote...they make me SICK!

there was a former ICE agent that was interviewed by Dennis....He put it in the true light that everyone should consider. He said, "If there was a burglar in your house and you called the police for help, how would you feel if the police said...we cannot help you...and as a matter of fact, not only can we not help you, even though your tax dollars pay us to do so, you must feed, cloth, house, school and provide health care for that burglar". This is not rocket science.....This is a corrupt government who has decided that law abiders are the big threat in America and law breakers are the "New Americans"....This is a sad day in a nation built on it's body of laws....

Illegal immigration is a big problem, no doubt. But Buck is right about 1 thing, many Americans do not have the work ethic of our southern neighbors. Two stores, one I admittedly heard second hand:
(1) A friend is a former INS agent. A few years ago he was on a raid at a facility where they handpick crabmeat out of shells for canning. Tedious work. The INS found 30 illegal workers and loaded them onto a bus. An agent saw a group of unemployed men hanging out on the corner and, trying to do them a favor, went over to tell them a bunch of jobs just opened up. They thought he was crazy and said "We aren't doing that s*** work." He came back and told my friend "I think we are deporting the wrong people."
(2) a client of mine owns a nursery/landscaping business and every year LEGALLY hires 4 or 5 guest workers from Mexico, paying fees and transportation. Each year he must advertise these jobs in the Sun for 6 months to make sure no American wants them (these are not great jobs, but not min. wage either, about $11-$12 an hour). In 10 years, including the last few high unemployment years, he never has more than 2 or 3 people call about the job, and in all that time only 1 American showed up for work--and he left after 3 hours, saying the work was too hard. So, are these Mexicans taking American jobs? Who is going to do this work that Americans feel is "too hard?" My client spends a lot to legally get his guest workers--how many small businesses cant afford that?

watch the movie Kathy....there are thousands of Americans who will do the work....s very cold man standing in the middle of a small Colorado town with a sign on his neck comes to mind....He ISN'T receiving ONE entitlement from government...He is too proud....to say that a group of unemployed men, who very well could've been working white collar jobs, and are now able to collect a decent portion of that for TWO YEARS should give that up for a ten dollar per hour job is not looking hard at this issue....In my business, my unemployment rate quadrupled under Martin O'Malley and his DLLR....Yet the same DLLR and my delegate in south Carroll along with my state senator has done NOTHING about an issue I proved was happening in my licensed industry with respect to underground industries and underreporting of income.....and these were conservatives....not to say that many democrats are aware of this, because they ultimately call the shots, but the point is, I have shown an error in their enforcement that is the direct cause of tax fraud and it seemed rather unimportant to Annapolis. And as I sit here and type this please know that EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THE CARROLL COUNTY DELEGATION is aware of this problem and have done NOTHING!!! The government has created this poor work ethic you complain about...To say that we should deport Americans over illegal immigrants is absolutely mind boggling.......

The McDonalds in Easton employees 2 confessed illegals. A disgruntled past employee claims the manager knows they are illegal and helped them get around documents required for employment and one of them has worked under 2 different names and social security numbers. She had worked there for 3 years and claims she was fired because she informed her employer of the illegals numerous times. My follow up was to send a letter, pictures of the alleged illegals, a copy of immigration law pertaining to employment of illegals and sanctions of employers that employ them as well as a call to the employer ( Hoff Companies ). One month later and the illegals are still working for the employer. My report to ICE will be detailed including the address of the illegals. One job at a time. Inch by inch we can move closer to deportation of many illegal aliens if we walk the walk not just talk the talk. Keep the faith my western friends. Caroline County Blake Sutherland

If there are thousands of Americans who will do the work, why can't my client get ONE? He would much rather hire Americans, then spend the time and money he does every year to get legal guest workers--but it is not happening. I realize that unemployed white collar workers are not going to do $12 an hour jobs, but I have never heard any rational person say that the big problem with illegal immigration is that these people are crossing the border and taking high paying white collar jobs away from American citizens. I am talking about the low paid, manual labor, that most Americans will not do. Is this "proud Colorado man" willing to work as a fruit picker or something similar? There are plenty of those jobs available, but I wouldn't do them, would you?

And good Lord, no one is saying we should deport Americans! The point is, that we are (or were) deporting people who would do jobs that many Americans wouldn't take. Money is not necessarily the issue--there are plenty of people working minimum wage at Wal Mart and fast food places. The jobs that businesses are having trouble filling with Americans are the hard labor, outdoor, dirty, and sometimes dangerous jobs that these illegals are willing to take.

I don't know what your "licensed industry" was, but maybe Dennis can do a movie about small business people who are trying to keep their business running but are having trouble hiring people.

If you read my post Kathy it clearly explains why your client cannot get workers....Tell him to call the governors office and ask why someone should get two years of unemployment???? NO ONE is going to give up unemployment when they will earn more $$$ through a paycheck for sitting on their behind compared to a forty hour a week job for less....can you not understand this???

Judy and Michelle, thank you for the kind offer to lend me one of your copies, but I actually ordered one online. It is a shame but documentaries are very hard to get shown and publicized--theaters make much more money off of movies that blow things up! It is good that your group sponsored this showing, and that the college allowed this movie to show there, and thus, started this dialogue.

I'm not angry Kathy....but your client seems to be......"They thought he was crazy and said "We aren't doing that s*** work." He came back and told my friend "I think we are deporting the wrong people."

Again I will say anyone stating that this problem stems from lazy Americans, and has the nerve to say we are deporting the wrong people sounds like a loon and has an extremely short nose.....Tell your client to call the governor....he is an Obama
mini-me....and then he can call Obama....I'm sure they'll jump right on it...

BTW, my next door neighbor owns a landscaping company Kathy....he has NEVER had to hire an illegal and always has his positions filled....I do believe he pays a bit more per hour....Somewhere in the neighborhood of $15.00 per hour..

The movie does focus on the government Buck....And illegal immigrants who want nothing more than to make the money and get the heck back to their homeland to live like kings....It is also as damaging to republicans as it is to democrats...It is an honest observation of just how bad this issue is, and why.....the ball drops squarely at the feet of the government.

Kathy....Michael Moore gets all of his documentaries shown in the theater....it's a case of political bias Kathy....Thanks to Judy Bach for making the contact with Dennis and Michelle for her organizational skills, Carroll County got a chance to see it..

Buck, the government has no real will to solve this issue--we can debate the reasons for that, but unless the government gets serious about stopping the flow of illegal immigrants into the county (and punishing the employers who hire them), individual action, like turning in two guys who work at a McDonald's, is going to be futile. As long as there are available jobs here and the possibility of a better life, hard working people are going to continue to make that dangerous crossing into the US. (Which of us wouldn't do the same in their situation?)

JoAnn, If the intent of this film is to make a difference and not money as you say, then the most effective way to get it out there would be to take advantage of the current internet technology...for free... post it to the internet, If it's good, it'll fly and begin to have effect at a much quicker pace. I believe the guy is smart as you say, and holding out for the big buck opportunity if it's not made public.

Buck, why doesn't Michael Moore offer his movies for free???Get real...this documentary took one year out of the lives of this man and his support staff....they aren't getting food stamps and Medicaid to take care of their families....And on another note, Dennis Lynch has been offered donations in large sums which he refused...He wants the movie shown...the Tea Party has been his lifeline....and hopefully those who oppose him will buy it and view it as well....or, they can come to a viewing with the Tea Party...Michelle has offered a copy to Kathy, maybe she'll offer one to you if you won't buy one??? And IF the government doesn't solve this, they will be voted out of a job until this country finds someone who does have the will....

and Buck, maybe you'd be best to look in the mirror before you start your "angry" rant.....Remember Buck, the one who smelt it dealt it.....

Michael Moore never sold a ticket to me....he is a liberal Hollywood darling....Dennis Lynch is not...it's that simple....and beyond he big screen there are venues for unknowns like Sundance and others...all refused to give this man the time of day....nice try Kathy but not even the big hitters on Fox News will not give this man a seat at he table....because the Republicans are just as guilty as he Democrats...At least I can admit that...

I didn't win much Buck Harmon...

Buck.. every day i'm active .. I call my legislatures, ice, hammer employers who hire illegals .. Call WH, contact landlords who rent to illegals. Send out literature, Report business's without proper license and permits.Expose corrupt politicians and employers who hire illegals. . It's never ending. Been doing this immigration thingy about 10 years or so..I consider myself TEA Party extreme activist..I've achieve many good things being active..

Buck, the Tea Party is not at all offended that it is not graced with your presence or support....we're doin fine without you...lol!

Thanks Buck. Although we don't always (or often) agree, I appreciate that you are always civil and willing to at least consider other points of view. I have ordered this movie--you have to buy 3 DVDs together, so I will have two extra copies if you want one. (I can't talk intelligently about the movie until after I have watched it.)

I am hoping you will comment Kathy after you see this documentary...Particularly about the situation in south Florida, which last time I checked, was still part of the USA...Pandering to illegals via their anchor babies is exactly what has landed this country into the mess it is in right now. We are the only country who views a child born in this country by two illegal alien parents as a citizen...That in itself is despicable........http://www.humanevents.com/2011/02/21/closing-anchor-baby-loophole-restores-the-14th-amendment/

http://www.humanevents.com/2011/02/21/closing-anchor-baby-loophole-restores-the-14th-amendment/

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Historically significant in Latino working class history as a successful organizer of the Mexican American working class in the Southwestern United States in the 1930s, the Communist Party regards working-class Latino people as another oppressed group targeted by overt racism as well as systemic discrimination in areas such as education, and sees the participation of Latino voters in a general mass movement in both party-based and nonpartisan work as an essential goal for major left-wing progress.[60]

Erica the movie is a documentary using real people and their own words. As far as the Dream Act that isn't mentioned in the movie but let me enlighten you with some facts that i'm sure are hidden from you by casa and others. the facts are in Md that we educate "All" children using our tax $$ to about $1billion a year through grades 12. Md is now 4th highest taxed state in the country because of it and other issues regarding illegal aliens. Now the Dream act is for kids 18-80 and again they want my tax $$ to subsidize their college education which will cost millions or more in Md. My granddaughter is a u.s. citizen in md. She wants to go to VA tech to study for veterinarian. She can NOT get instate tuition there although her parents and grandparents are forced to pay for illegals in our own state. The parents of these children came to our country and elected to stay undocumented even though we paid Big bucks through our tax $$ to raise their children with our $$ through welfare and benefits, medicaide etc while they worked our jobs.. continued>

cont.> They had no right bringing children into this world and expect others to support them. Not fair to anybody here. I see the parents using and abusing our systems.. Casa de md and other groups teach them how to work day jobs by connecting them with employers at their several day labor camps to work day cash jobs. If taxes are taken out of their salaries its very little because they claim many dependants and most don't have that many dependants. You must of read the recent story about illegals getting billions back in tax returns because of their many claimed dependants they don't have. . All of it is illegal and employers committing a felon by hiring and renting to them.The parents elect to stay undocumented because its more beneficial to them to not become citizens. I am also the result of immigrant parents and grandparents. Quite different scenario.. They came to america for a better life and no welfare involved. they worshiped our lands and their homes and our flag and wouldn't consider having any children until they could afford them and not rely on others to support them. They were to proud for that..Now that this movie is shown it is opening it up to more people to become aware of the truth and the cost involved..

Our country is in trouble on a number of different fronts and for a myriad of reasons. I hope that the movie, and people in general, are not trying to blame all of that on illegal aliens coming here to work at minimum wage jobs, or having babies here. Scapegoating a people for all of a country's problems has been done before, with horrifying results.

Buck Harmon....explain in depth what you mean when you say the Constitution works "both ways".....I'd love for you to school me on the Constitution

http://www.cpusa.org/cpusa-constitution/

The operative phrase is “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” which means people who owe sole allegiance to America.  During the ratification debates over the amendment in 1866, Sen. LymanTrumbull of Illinois, who was chairman of the Judiciary Committee, defined the phrase:  “The provision is that ‘all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.’  That means subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof. … What do we mean by ‘subject to the jurisdiction of the United States?’  Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means.”
READ THE FEDERALIST AND ANTI-FEDERALIST PAPERS....then come back here and tell me what the Constitution says.....

Kathy if it were that simple like crossing the border to work our jobs is in your eyes minimal but i don't see it that way at all. I see it as use and abuse and steal all you can from tax $$.. The cost of everything has at least tripled or more the past decade. Food,utilities,gas, permits,fines,fees and everything in between is related to the scams of illegal aliens..Having babies for profit while working our jobs and paying the minimal amount of taxes if any..

A few illegals? Kathy please.. your smarter then that. In Md i bet we have at least 700k here.. Ever drive through montg county and baltimore city? i've been at this immigration thing at least 10 years since i became permanently injured by an illegal. The cost of them are just outragous.. Md taxpayers now pay $2BILLION A YEAR FOR ILLEGALS. $1billion A YEAR to educate their children. They are working while getting welfare and benefits. This is a fact.. Its wrong and costing us $$.. They come into my home and steal from my family.. It cost every family in md almost $800 a year and yes you do see it in increased costs. Omalley calls them new americans and because they vote and the support of Casa he caters to them. Now he wants to be president in 2016 and taxing the hell out of taxpayers to show a surplus instead of a deficit caused by his new americans..

 
“I find no fault with the introductory clause, which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen; but, sir, I may be allowed to say further, that I deny that the Congress of the United States ever had the power or color of power to say that any man born within the jurisdiction of the United States, and not owing a foreign allegiance, is not and shall not be a citizen of the United States.” John A. Bingham, (R-Ohio) US Congressman, Architect of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, March 9, 1866 Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866), Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes (1866), Cf. U.S. Const. XIVth Amend.

196 nations on earth. Only the USA and Canada consider children born of illegals to be citizens. Most everyone was taught 2 wrongs don't make a right. So the entire world has wrong and we have it right. I don't think so.

once again, read the USA Communist Party Constitution......What we are debating here is simple.....are we going the route of Communism or are we going back to the Constitution...
http://www.cpusa.org/cpusa-constitution/

From the Communist Party USA website.....

The Communist Party stands for the interests of the American working class and the American people. It stands for our interests in both the present and the future. Solidarity with workers of other countries is also part of our work. We work in coalition with the labor movement, the peace movement, the student movement, organizations fighting for equality and social justice, the environmental movement, immigrants rights groups and the health care for all campaign.

But to win a better life for working families, we believe that we must go further. We believe that the American people can replace capitalism with a system that puts people before profit - socialism.

We are rooted in our country's revolutionary history and its struggles for democracy. We call for "Bill of Rights" socialism, guaranteeing full individual freedoms.

Until we win enough support to change the system, communists call for radical reforms under capitalism. We call for nationalization of the banks, railroads, and industries like steel and auto. Everyone who wants to work should be guaranteed a job or get unemployment payments until she/he can find a job. We say put the unemployed to work at union wages on massive public works programs to rebuild our cities, provide affordable housing for the homeless, build mass transit, and clean up the environment!

Why is the fight against racism, sexism and oppression so important to the communists?
We make the fight for equality an important part of every struggle we fight. The Communist Party fights for full equality for people of all races, for women and men, straight people and LGBT, for speakers of all languages, for young people and older people, and for people of all religious beliefs or none. The U.S. working class includes millions of immigrant workers. We stand for full rights for these workers, regardless of their documentation status. We believe in equality because it is just and right. Even more, the fight for equality is key to uniting the working class into a powerful force for the changes we need.

This statement Kathy in your last post...." Anyone who is in this country now, legally or illegally, is subject to the jurisdiction of the United States government (except those with diplomatic immunity)."

Tell me about the Amish community Kathy???They reside in this country and are "naturalized citizens"....Are they subject to all of the federal/state jurisdiction you claim every citizen is subjected to???

joanne. why comment on communism? Its all propaganda.. do a google on chavez and his country..

Kathy I am very angry at the system and corrupt politicians who cater to illegals with our jobs, benefits and money. over 1 million foreclosures a year to our citizens because of illegals. I am in pain 24/7 because of an illegal with a legit md drivers license who also votes.. I am an activist against corrupt politicians and anything concerning ILLEGAL aliens who break our laws and cost us money.. My immigrant family from and i'm sure yours didn't break all the rules like the illegals are..I am very upset.. omalley says its a federal issue which is bs. Federal issues are enforceable at local levels. O'malley and others take kickbacks from large employers that hire them. At least 7 out of 10 are undocumented in md. Many are overstayed visa workers but none the less they shouldn't be here..

You tea party zealots are an embarrassment.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/filmmaker_dennis_m_lynch_exposes_the_illusory_fence_protecting_our_border.html

Why communism??? because THIS is the agenda of the Communist Party USA...Why bother with Chavez when it's right there on the Communist Party USA website that illegal immigration is part of their agenda?? As an American citizen, you have every right to be a communist if you so choose...but please, let's just be honest and stop the bleeding heart "it's all for the kids" baloney and be straight up with the American people...This is not about new americans...it's about overwhelming an economic system to collapse it....it's about garnering voters to secure it...and it's right there for anyone to see on their Communist Party USA website.

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/august-10-2012/senior-irs-officials-ignored-reports-illegal-alien-tax-fraud.html

Buck Harmon....understand this.....I could care less what you and your Occupy Patch Mob trolls think of me or the Tea Party....K?????

Amdactivist....bucky's words earlier...JoAnn, I am on your team believe it or not, I don't have a problem with this type of movie at all! If the movie is as effective as is being promoted just think that it should be made available to all as quickly as possible. Selling, renting, or having to attend special showings only limits and lessens the potential to be effective. It's like trying to drive 200 yards with a pitching wedge. I'm a results oriented guy and believe that monetary considerations are getting in the way of progress here. Government corruption must be acted upon swiftly at any cost at this point .
If the movie introduced here is as good as you and others say....I say put it to work on a grand scale and force it to go viral...it doesn't cost anything. No building rental, staff pay, gas or travel expenses. Let the tool do it's job as quickly as possible.
Bucky's word now...."JoAnn, At this point I don't believe that your narrow, closed mind focus is capable of understanding anything more than you have repeatedly shared. Please ask some of your friends at the fellowship to assist you in acquiring some better communication skills....they would better serve the mission. Turning people off stifles you efforts considerably. I realize that there is plenty of room for improvement on my part as well." He's a loon...an Occupy Patch Mob loon!!!

Melody..continued They have ruined our state. as a many year democrat that God we can now research to the fullest. I use this site all the time. www.votesmart.org .. What our politicians say and how they vote are not the same. keep raising hell to your local councilpeople all the way up to the top and expose their names of those that do nothing for our citizens. They will tell you illegals pay taxes.. They pay very little if any other then sales tax. If they work jobs that take out taxes its unusual then they claim many kids they don't have. this was just on news recently. Over $100 billion on welfare and 57% are illegal and many getting multiple checks.. Md is now #4 high taxes and #2 in food stamp fraud.. O'malley lies and is corrupt..

Bwahahahahaha....you keep flapping your jaws on Patch, complaining and throwing your smirk remarks at me, Michelle Jefferson, Richard Rothschild, Robin Frazier, the Tea Party, and whoever else doesn't meet up to the Bucky Occupy Patch Mob standards and we will keep on keepin on....

Kathy apparently i have not been reading all your notes until now when you believe in communism and your son is a communist? So you think control over everyone's hard earned material things is ok? This is obama's agenda.. agenda 21 also.. with omalley and others. They want control of our lands to do with what they want? you agree? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

Buck you finally accomplished your goal. To get everyone on your crap list. Feel better now? have a great day alone. You seem to like that better since your so uninformed on many issues you elect to get decent people upset with the way you speak to them..

you don't see Bucky scolding his friend Friedhard, another Occupy Patch Mob loon, for his "narrow minded views" do you?......Bucky is a closet commie who says he's an independent.....he thinks he is so important that he should be notified of a viewing of a documentary by a woman he berates every single chance he gets....it didn't take amdactivist long to figure you out Bucky.....go back and stir your pot some more....yawn!

Kathy, if you're an independent you have missed elections..... primaries are the most important of all elections..... independents cannot vote in them in this state.

BTW Kathy, I find it a bit of an oxymoron to say you are fiscally conservative and socially moderate....to interject government, whether it be local, state, or federal into "social issues" equals BIG, COSTLY government.....show me one area where government has been directly involved in social issues and created a smaller, less obtrusive, less expensive government.....

So Kathy, are you saying you would prefer an election based on popular vote ie: a democracy?

Yes. Why don't the presidential candidates bother to campaign in Maryland? Because they know the state will go to Obama, just like they know Texas will go for Romney. The votes of the other party in those states are not heard. Why should someone who gets 51% of a state get 100% of the vote. The purpose of the EC was because the Founding Fathers did not trust the people to decide an election. I think we should have that right.

but we are not a democracy, we are a constitutional republic....is this the way you would begin to fundamentally transform America? a republic clearly allows room for the minority voice where democracy can violently quash any form of free speech to the smaller group....You believe that is the way America should be?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._10

Oh dear. You have unmasked my evil plan to fundamentally transform and destroy America. You are too smart for me. I should have known better than to try and fool someone brilliant enough to read Wikipedia as a source for the Federalist papers.

Kathy,
The link was provided as a convenience. You can read the federalist papers yourself, although I highly doubt you will, and will see the information provided is accurate. And it was provided not for you, but for those who read this, and don't know who or what to believe because they never learned this in school. It's always amusing to see a liberal (because that is clearly what you are) constantly calling for civil debates, and when they're exposed you see just how civil their little world really is....got cha!!!

I have broken my own rule, and wasted too much time arguing with . . . but name calling and insulting is not my style.

(I wish it was.)

Good luck to you. If it makes you feel better that you somehow think you are getting the better of anyone with your arguments and "facts", then I am happy for you. I hope you get everything you want out of these little diatribes.

I find it interesting that none of the serious local Tea Party members step up to the plate regarding this issue. Perhaps JoAnn and amdactivist have thoroughly embarrassed the group with repeated silliness in these rants. Or maybe they are all like this....who knows? I would certainly not want them on my team fighting for any cause.... they drive people with much to offer away.
Note to Westminster Tea Party: Are these two spokespeople the best that you have to offer?

Kathy, what you liberals demand is that everyone do it your way...well, that's not going to happen anymore...furthermore, the Tea Party members think I do a fine job of dealing with the Occupy Patch Mob all by myself....Welcome newcomer!!!

Kathy, why don't you school us on the Constitution?....that outta be a lot of fun...someone who thinks America would be better off a democracy...LOL! You are a clueless liberal....now go and call your tea party friends and maybe they will beat me up....Bwahahaha!!!

Kathy thinks she is a grammar teacher now....see how the libs try and control you? when you're in school, they dumb you down and then when you make a mistake as an adult, they intimidate you because they are sooooooooo smart...LOL!

i can tell. why are people so rude and humiliating .. Can't they see they make their own self look like idiots? Did i spell that ok for ya kathy.. joanne. how do i unsubscribe from this page? just a waste of time.

kathy ,, they are intelligent, civil and respectful like you are? geez..You wouldn't know tea party if it smacked ya in the face. They are a bit more intelligent and not demeaning.

Kathy says she has friends in the tea party and then insults them with this remark...

I guess you are the best that they have. Pity.

Tell us Kathy, who are you tea party friends....dumb tea party friends???

Popped a head gasket eh Bucky? Oh, have I violated Patch rules??? bwahahahaha

Democracy Kathy....for your reading pleasure.....In a Republic, the sovereignty resides with the people themselves.  In a Republic, one may act on his own or through his representatives when he chooses to solve a problem. The people have no obligation to the government; instead, the government is a servant of the people, and obliged to its owner, We the People.  Many politicians have lost sight of that fact.

A Constitutional Republic has some similarities to democracy in that it uses democratic processes to elect representatives and pass new laws, etc.  The critical difference lies in the fact that a Constitutional Republic has a Constitution that limits the powers of the government.  It also spells out how the government is structured, creating checks on its power and balancing power between the different branches.

The goal of a Constitutional Republic was to avoid the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy but what exists in America today is a far cry from the Constitutional Republic our forefathers brought forth.

here's some friends for you Kathy...Frances Fox Piven, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn....they agree with you about that "democracy thing"......
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/3/19/strategic_directions_for_occupy_wall_street

JoAnn, Aruuing with you is a lot like arguing with some liberals. It's like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeonis just going to knock over all of the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it's victorious....have a great evening.

Maybe the attorney should read it Bucky....I have taken no oath to defend it and then spew words that violate it...

Counsel........Article IV Section 4 of the Constitution states:  "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican form of Government, and shall protect each  of them against Invasion . . .
You did take an oath, didn't you?

If the Tea Party stuck to their core values of limited government and free enterprise, they would be a force to be reckoned with. The message of personal responsibility resonates with a lot of Americans. But when they start campaigning on divisive social issues, shrieking their lungs out about phony controversies, voicing an endless stream of complaints about how unfairly they are treated by the government and the mainstream media, and trying to blame all their problems on a convenient slate of villains: unions, women, scientists, Muslims, Planned Parenthood, Obama, liberals, immigrants, etc., — that’s when they lose credibility.

So chatter on all you want, "JoAnn" (if you have the courage to use your real name) and amdactivist (who obviously doesn't). In the end, the Tea Party is going to be a footnote in history like the Know-Nothings and the Bull Moose Party.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

Well, well, well....The truth comes out....The woman who professes to have "tea party friends" claims what she really wants for them to be...."a footnote in history".....the supreme Occupy Patch Mob blogger is nothing more than a radical leftist, exactly like what sits in the WH....FINALLY she says the truth....that's what happens when you back a rat in the corner...

I have tea party friends, that doesn't mean I agree with everything they believe in. I am able to be friends who people don't agree in lockstep with everything I do. If you think that I am a radical leftist--I can't stop laughing as I write that--then obviously your politics are so far to the right that Nixon and Regan would be radical leftists. And anyone with a 6th grade education could read that I am not saying that my friends will be footnotes in history, but the Tea Party. Not that I necessarily want this--but it is inevitable. Call me a rat all you want--it is mild compared to some of the insults that you throw around. And now I am done wasting my time on this. Good bye.

You honor your friends counselor just as you honor the Constitution you took an oath to defend....we'll see who's going to be a footnote in history, won't we????? Those threatening remarks will simply give more steam to the Tea Party to defeat those who wish to destroy our Republic....LIKE YOU!!!!

This is for the perfect grammar, brilliant independent fiscally conservative but socially moderate (big duh!), friend of the Tea Party who wishes for them to be a footnote in history,wishes for our constitutional republic to be a democracy where minorities would have no free speech, Supreme Occupy Patch Mob blogger who's really a
radical leftist.......
http://c457332.r32.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/thelaw-2008.pdf

ooooooooohhhhhh.....I'm sooooooooo intimidated Bucky......slide on in...because we that KNOW you, KNOW there's no backbone or spine under that worthless flesh.....come and make a spectacle of yourself.....the man who assaults Michelle Jefferson has now divulged his plans to "Occupy the Tea Party"......,bwahahahahaha

We were all awaiting your presence at the Tea Party meeting, especially Commissioner Shoemaker....Bwahahahaha...

couldn't seem to find any of your "tea party moles"........hearing voices again Bucky????

Oh enlighten us, he who's the legend in his own mind....get some help for the voices Bucky...

Oh, now that's rally funny...Some of the biggest Communists I know attended Randallstown High School....NONE of them are Tea Party members....back to the drawing board Bucky dear...

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YkacYdCTBA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sent from my iPad

the immigration issue looks at all problems....but this is not about outsourcing jobs to India where they are done for a cheaper price. This is about people coming into our country illegally and corrupt politicians who think nothing of strip searching you in an airport but allow our borders to be wide open...This is about an American citizen who cannot get a job because there are so many illegals in one city that if an America citizen does not speak Spanish they cannot work....Last time I checked, you could still get a job in Miami if you did not speak Urdu....

Here is a new comment on the movie website...'denise' added Audience Reviews:

OMG i cant believe someone is showing this i have tried to tell people about what is going on in amercia for so long but people think i am a rasist...i never have been...but look into what the pool builders up in conneticuit are doing they bring the mexicans in legally with a work permit for 5 months and they pay all the taxes and then go home and while they are sitting in mexico for 7 month they collect AMERICAN un-employement..yes they have the realives collect the money for 7 months and send to them and this has been going on for years and years...my garderner told me all about it in texas...now i live in miami and oooooooooooh talk about milking the system oh wow here it is even worse ..i am so glad you have done this show please get out there and show what the immigration is doing to this country it is pathetic and so sad, the TRUE american cant find work and cant feed hes family yet we are closing our eyes to why??? thank you so much for this movie i plan to buy it and send it to as many people as i can
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This issue is about a government that has failed miserably for a very long time regarding immigration, and employers that hire these human beings, not the human beings that seek to better their life and family as a result of the good old US failed government....Go after the government...not the immigrants...going after the immigrants is like trying to pump up a tire with a BIG hole in it...

Make a video of the government failing to do something about it, It'll get more attention....but it's probably a little tougher to do..

Once again, we have to listen to one of the "Occupy Patch Mob" critique a film he obviously hasn't watched.....The "government failing to do something about it" is in the film Bucky....But unlike Michael Moore, this film is actually balanced in pointing the finger....It gets no attention because it is a TEA PARTY issue and MSM,
Hollywood and corrupt politicians are doing their best to ignore it...

Buck you havnt left yet? You have made a fool out of yourself. I know Joanne and she is no racist.

Joanne.so you know this person. He is a total BORE. I am going to have to unsubscribe to this patch thingy. He reminds me of the numbskulls who post on Balto Sun and Fred News Post Many have serious ISSUES.

Why not just reply to my posts regarding the topic of this blog with some substance for a change....fight for your cause instead of trying the bully tactics with me....not very good for the cause silly ladies..