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Commissioner Rothschild Suggests 'Thinking Outside the Box' to Fund Education

Carroll County Commissioner Richard Rothschild, a proponent of funding Carroll County Public Schools at the minimum allowed by state law, offered "creative" ways to fund education at a recent meeting.

In a recent open meeting of the Board of Carroll County Commissioners, Commissioners, Richard Rothschild suggested thinking outside the box in an effort to reach a compromise in funding education.

At a commissioner-hosted education forum Monday night, approximately 700 people came out to weigh in on the topic of education funding in Carroll County.

Commissioners Richard Rothschild and Robin Frazier presented their position that education funding should not increase when student enrollment is declining. The two have advocated for funding Carroll County Public Schools at Maintenance of Effort (MOE), the minimum allowed by state law, in FY14. 

In a Tuesday night board of commissioners meeting following Monday's education forum, Rothschild offered what he called creative ideas to help address the issue of funding education. 

"In the course of discussion over the [education] budget this year and last year, people said that they don't mind paying more taxes," Rothschild said.

Rothschild was referring to individuals who said at Monday night's forum, and in other public meetings, that they would rather the county fund education than offer a tax cut in FY14.

Rothschild's first "out of the box" idea includes giving citizens the opportunity to waive a county tax cut or rebate. The Board of Commissioners has mentioned both a property tax decrease and a tax rebate as possible options for FY14. 

"Why not create a tax break where citizens have the option of waiving it and assigning it to be earmarked 100 percent for education," Rothschild said.

According to Rothschild, approximately 50 percent of every dollar taxed by the county goes to education. If the tax waiver is offered and those waived tax dollars are earmarked for education, then 100 percent of the dollar goes to education Rothschild said.  

"Even if only 50 percent of the people did that it would result in just as many dollars to education," Rothschild said. 

Rothschild's second idea involves setting up a "fiscal sponsorship" for public education whereby county government would set up a fund and residents and businesses could contribute dollars that would be matched by the county.

Rothschild added a second, "smaller component" to this idea that included setting up a nonprofit to assist families whose children do not attend public schools.  

"There would be a small amount of grant money available for the nonprofit to help out parents who have put kids in private, parochial or homeschool," Rothschild said.

Rothschild said he is looking for compromise to meet the demands of those who want education funded at a certain level as well as those who want taxes lowered. 

"These two things [ideas] would be creative," Rothschild said. "They might not solve the problem but it puts us closer to having a prinicpal compromise among the Board of Commissioners and closer to having the solution that fulfills some of the request of the public school system." 

There was no discussion of the ideas after Rothschild's brief presentation.

What do you think? Are these ideas worth consideration? Tell us in comments. 

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JoAnn Nicholls March 9, 2013 at 12:16 pm
John, that's a nice offer...and I would be more than happy to buy your lunch and chat...but don't assume I've spent no time in these schools and don't assume I've no experience....I don't have children in schools anymore...they are grown and on there way....and as much as CCPS would love to cheer for their success, it had little to do with them....my daughter attended a Baltimore County magnet school as an out of county student that I paid for. She was gifted and CCPS offered nothing for her. There were no buses so we trucked her each day to Towson for four years. My son went to South Carroll and attended the IT program for Cisco certification where he had a teacher that was not even Cisco certified....we didn't complain but my son Jarred and his friend Aaron Conran bought the Cisco manuals online and between the two of them they went chapter by chapter and took the tests at the end of each chapter and taught themselves. Prior to graduation they enrolled at Carroll Community College and took the Cisco certification exam and passed. It helped to make the CCPS look good but trust me, it was from the effort of two smart, motivated kids who weren't getting what the course promised. Just saw another student in that class who answers phones at Fairhaven.....guess he didn't get certified....I hear additional complaints from parents with special needs. Common Core is designed for drones....children are not equal and each have needs and gifts to offer....too many layers of bureaucrats
JoAnn Nicholls March 9, 2013 at 12:17 pm
Bonnie Grady...you had a CHOICE in the elections.....kids don't have a choice.
JoAnn Nicholls March 9, 2013 at 12:31 pm
Arya, I suppose the next time the Carroll County teachers brag that their system is tops in the state, I can say..."Apples and Oranges"....funny how you use comparisons when you think it helps your cause and when it doesn't you cry, "Apples and Oranges"....typical though.
Buck Harmon March 9, 2013 at 01:18 pm
Hey John, I would rather spend a day in the offices of the folks that get paid the big bucks...asking questions that pertain to the current curriculum...I don't live in Carroll, but am interested and concerned about options for my children and grandchildren that do live in Carroll. My children both graduated from Hereford High school in Baltimore County and like JoAnn, my wife and I drove them to the School of our choice rather than send them to the school that happened to be in the district that we lived. We went as far as renting a property that we didn't live in to have them placed at Hereford because of the research that we had done to learn about the differences between school population and administration.
Buck Harmon March 9, 2013 at 01:27 pm
The schools in Carroll are without question different, and based on your geographic location you are stuck with what is offered and taught as well. It would be a good thing for concerned parents to have a choice that breaks the mold of the current BOE.
This should in my opinion be the direction that public schools focus rather than the my way or the highway approach of spending and allocating funding...choice is a good thing that sparks creativity. Lack of creativity stifles educators at the administrative level.Curriculum is critical and lacking in Carroll schools.
Buck Harmon March 9, 2013 at 01:30 pm
Oh, and I would be glad to buy you lunch any day of the week John....perhaps you could arrange for that in a school cafeteria...I'd love to check out the selections provided...
Kathy March 9, 2013 at 01:42 pm
That is a good point--you do have a choice of schools, either because you choose to live in the school district that you think best, or you choose to send your children to a private or magnet school. I work in Carroll County and volunteer there and really like love it--but I live in Baltimore County, because when I was researching where to buy a house my major consideration--before taxes or anything else--was school district, and I chose to live in Hereford. When both of my children graduate Hereford High in the next few years, I may choose to move to Westminster.
JoAnn Nicholls March 9, 2013 at 01:48 pm
Buck I agree. I keep hearing we need good, strong schools to attract business and residents who wish to move here....I imagine if we offered school choice they'd be beating down the doors to get here...Commissioner Rothschild is offering what many, many people have wanted for decades.....all of you know this idea of school choice has been brought to the forefront before....even as far back as the 1990's there have been attempts to offer school choice and the unions crushed those attempts....our school system is much worse now than back then....people have had it with this bureaucracy that cares little about the children and more about loyalty to a particular political theology that they bully into these kids....that is why we see the violence in schools today...just as we recently saw with the pop tart bitten into a gun look alike incident...taking a completely natural, little boy behavior and scolding/punishing him into drone mold politically correct nonsense that stays on his record and follows him....shameful!!
Kathy March 9, 2013 at 01:54 pm
JoAnn, congratulations on having a smart, motivated kid, but frankly, no matter what school your child goes to, only smart motivated kids get into the college of their choice and pass exams and get what they want out of life. My kids' school is very good, but I only viewed their formal schooling as a start--a foundation. It is the job of parents to provide the real education--not only the extra curricula programs, manuals, computer classes, books, field trips, etc., but the values, the love of learning and reading, the responsibility of taking charge of your own education, and the understanding that most learning takes place outside the classroom. That doesn't mean that I don't think the schools should be adequately funded--without the good foundation, the structure cannot be strong. It also doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to improve the education kids get at school. (Less nonsense and more history and civics would be a start). I just don't think that we can expect schools to ever provide a FULL education--especially for gifted children. They have all they can do to keep most kids actually passing .
Buck Harmon March 9, 2013 at 02:03 pm
Well said Kathy... I'd like to buy you and JoAnn lunch as well sometime !
John D. Witiak March 9, 2013 at 02:04 pm
JoAnn and Buck, you both affirm what both my wife and I have believed since our kids were born.... that if kids are fortunate to have loving, caring, attentive and supportive parents they will thrive beyond expectations. Our kids did so in CCPS. Like a lot of caring parents whose kids have gone through the grades in CCPS we feel fortunate to live in a county with such excellent public schools... and we believe full funding is the way to proceed because of this.
I really do hope we three can have lunch together. And I'll spring for it....
JoAnn Nicholls March 9, 2013 at 02:24 pm
bad parenting goes along with everything else I see in society today....there's nothing that would spark someone to do what is right, when what is wrong is their spitual guide. Our present government affirms this....no more death penalty so, where do you think the hard core criminals will flock, after all, it's only 3 hots and a cot for their life and surely, they'll come a time for parole....then there's the illegal aliens, oh, excuse me, the "new Americans", a slap in the face to every immigrant who's come here with respect for the rule of law....our teachers cannot even hug a kid anymore....I find it very sad where political correctness has taken us...and I bet there would be many teachers that would agree with how they are dictated to teach right now...I'm just not sure that as thick as this bureaucracy is, that it can be corrected without giving it a dose of competition, which the school system has no issue with in their sports programs. I would be happy to have lunch with you and Buck.
Buck Harmon March 9, 2013 at 02:25 pm
I love George Carlin...he does rest in peace...just has to..
Buck Harmon March 9, 2013 at 02:38 pm
What exactly is meant by full funded John? That's where my lack of education seems to have failed me or something....how is the best dollar value for our grand kids future to be determined ? Who..and how are those determinations made? What is the degree of accountability associated with these extremely important decisions? Do we want to continue to allow the government to tell us how to raise and educate our children? Too many questions I guess..
Buck Harmon March 9, 2013 at 02:41 pm
I think that we should invite Kym Byrnes to this lunch gathering...
she's probably pretty good at coordinating this kind of thing. I'm in.
Arya Stark March 9, 2013 at 02:58 pm
Sigh. Comparing school system to school system is a relevant comparison. Comparing public school choice to being able to choose one's doctor or such, not a relevant comparison.
BTW, I'm pretty sure one can ask for an out-of-district placement within the county and as long as the school has room, they will grant it. So, one can choose within the school system.
JoAnn Nicholls March 9, 2013 at 03:17 pm
Ayra, why don't you explain why you cannot compare a system where you choose a professional for legal matter, health care or finances to an education k-12???? I am quite interested to hear this....and while you're at it, could you please explain why it is that we DO NOT practice this method in higher education??? how can a college stay in business for goodness sakes???? where do they get the assets to survive???? LOL!
Arya Stark March 9, 2013 at 03:26 pm
You're not getting it. You are comparing a public service - public education, to private enterprises. Colleges are a private enterprise (yes we have public colleges, but one must pay to attend them, so they are still seeking paying customers), so that's a decent comparison.
I'm not sure what you mean by why we don't practice this for higher education? Do you mean why we don't have the same type of public school system for colleges? As in, school districts, everyone can attend, based on where one lives? I would say because college is for adults, college is a choice, not everyone is suited for college, and those that wish to attend may want to specialize in different areas of expertise and/or experience life away from home. Our country mandates public education to be provided for all. So this is the system we have. One can either choose to attend for free, or pick a private option. I'm not sure what's so difficult about that to understand. Again, we don't give people money to choose the non-public option in other areas.
JoAnn Nicholls March 9, 2013 at 04:30 pm
It's you that doesn't get it Ayra....you simply cannot create a viable system when there is NOTHING to compete against it....I have worked in situations where there was a union....I understand the mentality and have seen great companies become lousy companies, many of them no more, because of union mentality.....If you want to see the future of the public school system you need look no further than the postal service because that's where it's headed if some common sense changes don't happen quickly....Commissioner Rothschild is trying to save our county system by instilled common sense free market ideas that will give the system the ability to improve and out do other states let alone out do other counties thereby attracting
new residents and business. If we don't give people money to choose the non-public option than we simply should not take the money from those people to support a system they do not want, approve of or find appropriate for their child. The people that adore this system, like you, can go ahead and support it.
John D. Witiak March 9, 2013 at 04:33 pm
VOTE!!!! In school board elections, Buck. And for Commissioners who choose to have their kids attend CCPS. YOU ARE IN CONTROL. Our government belongs to each of us.
JoAnn and Buck, BOB EVANS IN Westminster Tues or Thursday at noon?
John D. Witiak March 9, 2013 at 06:30 pm
Why not join us, Kim?
John D. Witiak March 9, 2013 at 10:54 pm
Oh, yes, my contact email address is
Johndwitiak@gmail.com. Incidentally, my wife and I have resided in Carroll County for over thirty years. Our kids attended and graduated from Carroll County Public Schools. I will vote for those who will work to continue to ensure that CCPS will continue to be among the top public school systems in Maryland and across our good ol' US OF A. I WILL NOT vote for R. Rothschild in 2014 OR EVER! This man and R. Frazier are hell-bent on destroying what our public school system's boards of education and its professional, certified educators have worked so hard and long and passionately to achieve.
Kym Byrnes (Editor) March 10, 2013 at 01:02 am
Let me know if you nail down the place and time and I will see if I can make it. Sounds interesting!
JoAnn Nicholls March 10, 2013 at 05:44 pm
Such brilliance....it's a great example that you give as to why you are losing students....you JoeEldersburg (who is too cowardly to use a real name because IT may get fired forms ITS teaching position) make the perfect example of what it wrong with the public school indoctrination system....Your emotionally stunted attacks may get you in trouble with Kym...or does she just scold people when you minions get the same garbage arguments thrown back at you???
JoAnn Nicholls March 10, 2013 at 05:47 pm
John D. Witiak....I will only attend your luncheon if all these phonies who use fake names attend and reveal who they are....ALL of them
WatchingInMtAiry March 10, 2013 at 07:38 pm
Thanks for the invite...JoAnn...I'm going to be too busy...taking a class...on how to properly use...ellipses...
John D. Witiak March 10, 2013 at 10:38 pm
JoAnn,
Buck and I are having lunch on Tuesday at 12 noon. I do hope you and Kim can join us. I'm looking forward to a great time sitting down with other citizens who are concerned about the future of education in Carroll County. Email me and let me know if that time suits you, too. John
JoAnn Nicholls March 11, 2013 at 12:11 pm
watchinginmtairy....you're wasting your time....can't fix a lack of common sense...save the money....stay home and blog on Patch using your twenty dollar words that you learned in your class.....not impressed!!...neither are the kids...they're bored and angry at the crap you call "education"......and twenty five percent of them that graduate from your "higher learning" facilities can't find a job...
Bonnie Grady March 15, 2013 at 05:45 am
John and Buck, how was lunch? Did anyone else show up?
Kym Byrnes (Editor) March 15, 2013 at 01:24 pm
Sorry guys, someone else was managing my site over the weekend and I did not see John's lunch date and time until Bonnie's comment just showed up. In the future, please shoot me an email at kym.byrnes@patch.com - I'm not always the one moderating comments.

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Kym Byrnes (Editor) June 10, 2013 at 05:14 pm
Congratulations graduates! May you be as successful in the next part of your journey as you were atRead More St. John School.
Artemus Gordon April 9, 2013 at 02:39 am
I don't live in your district and I am not a member of your party. I have watched you during yourRead More meetings with the commissioners and you handle things very well. You have a balance of private and public sector experience which is a necessary background to have to guide the county. It will be nice to have a competent person with your qualifications to run against someone who is totally unqualified but never had any opposition in the last election. Now she will have to attend the voter forums and explin her views and positions. Let the chips fall where they may. The emperor will have no clothes.
romeo valianti April 12, 2013 at 11:26 pm
Wow, this is great news. Hopefully, 1 down and 4 to go!! Make sure Frazier shows up at theRead More political forums this time. She chose to miss every one last time, so she did not have to answer questions on her positions and her horrible record the first time around in 1998-2002. She will try to do that again to get re-elected.
Bonnie Grady April 13, 2013 at 01:19 am
If Frazier runs for reelection in 2014, I hope someone will have the nerve to ask her pointblank, onRead More camera, about her relationship to Roscoe Bartlett. Folks who've been around Carroll County for a while know the answer: there is no relation. She just tacked that on when she decided to run the first time. It may be her maiden name - or not - but she has never bothered to answer the question. She just let folks assume there is a connection, and lots of folks fell for it.