Speak Out: Will New School Start/End Times Impact You?

The school system's new transportation plan will go into effect this school year.

A new transportation plan was approved by the school board in May of 2011 that is expected to save the school system about $1.2 million.

The new transportation plan, designed to save the county money starting in fiscal year 2013, means bus drivers will have to take on more routes, requiring schools to adjust start and end times.

Most schools will only be affected by a 15 to 30 minute shift but some schools will see significant shifts such as Eldersburg Elementary which will start at 7:45 a.m., an hour and twenty minutes earlier than the previous start time of 9:05 a.m.

Will the new school start/end times impact your family? Tell us in comments.


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Douglas August 23, 2012 at 11:05 AM
YES !!! i think the elementary times are ridiculous. After elem scholls let out, the older kids are still in school, which alot of us rely on the older kids to watch the little ones. If the county wants to save money, How about knocking down salaries of the employees on the board who think this is a good idea. If we the parents have to adjust, how about they adjust their salaries to help out. Doug in Westminster..
tiptop August 23, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Yes it will, as anyone else that has to commute on the inadaquate road system in this county. The BOEd plans on saving $1.2 mill. next year? what happened to this year? if the bus drivers have to take on more routes? won't those fees be passed on to the tax payers? Why did the Sup. Steve Guthrie & the BOEd change the School System Logo if they wanted to save money, how much will that cost the tax payers? Let's face it, the public school system is nothing but subsidizes day care!!!!
Robin Nicole August 23, 2012 at 11:44 AM
They got it backwards. Studies have shown that the younger students should start first, and the older students last. In fact, some schools in PA have already started this shift in timing. It all has to do with the natural body clocks of children, and how it will shift as they age. As for me, it won't affect me at all. My school is one of the few that had no change in starting time.
KPereira August 23, 2012 at 11:48 AM
My son will not start school until 9:30 this year and won't get off the bus until 4:30 in the afternoon. He won't eat lunch until 1:25. That's a really rough transition for kids who are used to starting and ending an hour earlier. That's going to be especially rough for the kids just entering school who will be exhausted before the day is even over. Why can't the middle and high school kids go later (since most of them would prefer to sleep in later) and let the elementary school kids go earlier (since they seem to be up at the crack of dawn anyway!) This puts parents like me in a real bind who have other commitments like preschool for other children. Back when they were proposing this change, they asked for feedback. When I gave my respectful feedback on why I thought the changes would be a bad idea, I received a rude letter back from someone at the transportation department basically saying that my other commitments are my own problem. Obviously their minds were already made up about the changes and they asked for opinions as just a formality. I sincerely hope this plan fails.
Joyce Debrowski August 23, 2012 at 12:26 PM
Respectfully, your other commitments are your own problem. However, I do believe that the biological clocks of children are different at different ages. The start times should be based on that.
CS August 23, 2012 at 12:27 PM
We're on of the ones affected by the ridiculously early start time of 7:45. Even though elementary age children tend to be up earlier, to be at the bus stop at 7:15 is a bit much. Great idea, CCPS. Let's have the little kids stand at the bus stop at the dead of winter in the dark. Oh, and have the parents foot the bill for the crazy high cost of after school care, which many more will now have to bear. Not to mention our exhausted children, who will eat lunch when many are just eating breakfast. I'm glad it saves the system money, but they did it with no regard how it would affect everyone that has to suffer the consequences of their bone-headed ideas.
Buck Harmon August 23, 2012 at 12:31 PM
This could happen Douglas, If the apathetic public would step up to the plate and force the issue. As it stands...there are only a few,( kinda like Patch posters) that are willing to make the effort. of course they won't cut their own salaries on their own...
Michael Johnson August 23, 2012 at 01:07 PM
The school board totally ignored the feedback and comments from the community and went ahead with thier own agenda despite the cost and inconvenience that this change puts on families! There is no longer time for children with the late start and end time in elementary school to participate in after school sports/ activites, do homework and get some rest time after school. Also, many of us are spending big $ on before school care since many parents need to be at work by the time the children are standing at the bus stop. It is much easier to get a friend, family member or neighbor to help with after school care, especially when their children are involved in the same orr similar after school activities! Way to go Carroll County... You have yet again failed the citizens by ignoring their input and going ahead with your own pre-conceived ideas despite...
Michael Johnson August 23, 2012 at 01:11 PM
I watched the school board meeting on tv when this issue was being discussed. The scool board did not even listen to the bus company when the spokesperson told them that even though less busses will run, there will be more miles (wear and tear) on the busses, and more hours for the bus drivers. They told the school board that they would not see the savings that was projected due to these factors. The school board did not even listen to these comments.
Buck Harmon August 23, 2012 at 01:39 PM
Nothing more than a token, pacifier effort that creates the leadership illusion of doing something to save money ....very weak effort, with very little potential return. It's what perceived leaders do when they lack real talent. Happens at every level.
Nancy M. August 23, 2012 at 02:55 PM
The schedule change was an issue for my family and it will be an adjustment. That said, I respect the resolution of the transportation audit and our outstanding public school system in Carroll County (THANK YOU teachers, personnel, and administration). This is an opportunity to teach my children that flexiblility and compromise are problem solving strategies, rather than blame or compliants. A silver lining for my family has been developing a community connection by accepting a neighbor's offer to help our on certain days that my children will arrive home first. I'm hoping for a successful transition and thankful for neighbors still willing to be part of a community. Good luck everyone with this adjustment!!
KPereira August 23, 2012 at 03:19 PM
I agree that my commitments (like preschool) are my own problem..I'm not saying that the school system should work around my schedule. What I am saying is what other people have said on here about before and after school care..I'm lucky to be a SAHM right now with the "flexibility" (ha ha) of trying to get more than one kid to more than one educational commitment, but if I had to go back to work, there is no way that I could make any of that work. As it is, I will have to drive my son to school instead of letting him take the bus, which will cause even MORE of a traffic back-up on the already crowded roads.
Kevin Gibson August 23, 2012 at 05:47 PM
My concern is with the bus drivers having 3 trips in the morning and afternoon. In inclement weather, a back-up plan is needed as the new schedules won't matter. If one of the 3 is delayed, there will be a domino effect.
I. DeFeo August 23, 2012 at 06:32 PM
I understand why they did it, but it is going to be a big adjustment for everyone. I'm just grateful that my kids are older and in middle and high schools that were not affected by more than 5 minutes. If my daugther was still in elementary school, she would have been one of those kindergartners that I would be carrying off the bus fast asleep at 4:20 because her biological clock when she was younger was geared to early mornings and early evenings.
Alissa August 23, 2012 at 08:41 PM
Well, we are going to get a property tax cut. Penny wise and pound foolish. http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/news/local/property-tax-cut-employee-raises-in-proposed-county-budget/article_fad06773-ea40-5271-8d31-165b8560af17.html
Sue Keller August 25, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Yup. Will more than likely have to get before school care because the bus pick-up time is about 1/2 hour later than I was originally told..........Thanks, CCPS!
Sue Keller August 25, 2012 at 11:28 AM
You're the first person to bring this up....you're right, it will be totally nuts.
Alissa August 26, 2012 at 11:05 AM
Do you remember what it was like near the end of this past year when there was the tornado warning? And that was with only two routes per bus!
Jaimie Hanson August 27, 2012 at 02:36 AM
No one cares about the children, that is all that matters. I would rather them tax me extra then have my 6 year old son get up at 5 something and be dressed and picked up in the dark at 7:15 am. If you do not have kids and do not want to be taxed, FINE! I'll pay extra! I already pay tons for water and I pay for my trash! My son is going to eat lunch at 10:20 in the Morning!!! This is so wrong!! When the MSAs start to go down they will care! When I went to back the school night...the principle basically said to get used to it. The teachers and staff like the fact they get to leave early. Well that's swell! The county could care less about the community! I called, I complained, I did everything I could. It's so wrong, and what is sad is they know it!
Buck Harmon August 27, 2012 at 02:49 AM
The Carroll County Government , Including the school board are a combined failed system. The citizen's don't get what they pay for and have not for a very long time. Failed government seems to be accepted as the norm these days, please DON'T get used to it. Shout a little louder...fight the good fight for the sake of the children!


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